Yeah, they`ll need to wait a good while before they try that again, else it`ll turn into the LU cliche.
"At the end of each season, we`ll have Ace seemingly sacrifice himself for the team followed by much grieiving for a few episodes, then he`ll heroically come back to save them when they really need him, revealing himself not to be dead at all. And then, Lexi will come close to revealing her feelings in a temporary lack of control over her emotions."
Yeah, don`t think that`ll work so well. If people didn`t call Ace a Gary Stu before, that`d pretty much nail the title into a cast iron plaque.
Hehe! That's funny Crossfire! How about this-"To draw a parallel to Lexi despairing when Ace seemingly died, we'll make Lexi be away from him for more than ten minutes in Apocolypso and watch him lose it in about thirty secounds!"
Seriously, who wants to place bets that will happen? Because when do you ever see those two apart for extended periods of time not involving missions and stuff and by their own personal descision? (Sleeping in seperate rooms at night does not count.)
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'Tis true. Ace and Lexi for some reason are always placed in very close proximity to one another, whether on or off-mission! I don't think Ace would 'lose it in thirty seconds' if Lexi wasn't with him as you say Anna, but if he suspected that Lexi was in trouble, i think he'd be particularly worried.
And it was too bad about Ace's very brief death scene in "Acmeggedon" as Animefangirl and Crossfire say, that would have had more impact if the tragic loss had lasted longer. But yeah, i don't hope to see Ace repeat that again, it would be too cliche. Although, i wouldn't mind seeing another of the Loonatics doing something to mislead the others, especially Tech!
Well, I`m saying they need to wait a while, not never do that again. They just need to throw it at us when we least expect it, and make it good next time. If they try that during Season 2`s finale, we`ll be expecting it, but hey, come season 5, we may not expect Ace to go down then, and it might be more of a shocker (of course, perhaps it wouldn`t now that I might`ve gone and predicted it...crud. )
You truly are optimistic to think Loonatics can make it to season 5. Not to knock the show, but there are better cartoons out there that didn't get that many episodes.
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Easy, now. Part of the reason may be that really good shows are harder to write stories for, so that could be why LU might cancel sooner than say, Pokemon. From my experience, anime is easier to produce episodes for anyway; is there an anime that doesn`t have five seasons or more? Disney`s shows, on the other hand, use considerably more varied animation, so they take more time and money to produce.
BTW, I don`t mean to bash Pokemon or anime in general, I`m simply stating that western-style cartoons are actually harder to make (the more refined ones, anyway. The straighter-edged, flatter-looking cartoons of the modern day are perhaps another matter)
Martiangirl wrote:You truly are optimistic to think Loonatics can make it to season 5. Not to knock the show, but there are better cartoons out there that didn't get that many episodes.
I don`t believe Martiangirl was saying anything bad about the show, only that there are better shows out there that didn`t get to a fifth season. She didn`t insult the show in any way, so technically she wasn`t saying anything bad about it.
Exactly. I like the show, and didn't mean anything negative toward it. It's just that it is extremely rare for cartoon shows (not counting animes) to make it to a fifth season. Usually cartoons both good and bad are given a set amount of episodes and then are cancelled. The exception comes only when the cartoon is uber popular and has a mini cult following among fans. Think of Teen Titans, Spongebob, and Justice League. You can tell because they are plastered everywhere on everything and are merchandising gold. Loonatics is good, but it isn't that good. At least not yet. That's all I was saying.
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Martiangirl makes a good point. There's also the fact that number of episodes doesn't measure the quality of the series. Totally Spies is a perfect example. I'm still questioning how the hell it stayed so popular.
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*Prays to the gods of television for a 3rd season of LU.*
And yes, Martiangirl is just being realistic about the show kari. Alot of cartoons, decent or not, end sooner than fans would like. And quite frankly, i don't think LU is popular enough to carry it into a season 5 at this point. My personal opinion, the show in its current writing quality is entertaining and fun, but doesn't yet have what it takes to become a memorable and impacting story. If the show makes it into a season 3, it will be interesting to see what path the writers decide to take it down. In S1, the show was mostly action-oriented, in S2 it seems we're getting more comedy with the introduction of many other LT character LU adaptations. Where a S3 would go would be of great interest. Would they want to maintain the fun and comedy of S2? Or would they make it into something more epic and plot-driven?
well a plot for season 3 would be pretty cool ya know it give it more action and mybe a pairing or a hint of a pairing or 2(talking about ace=lexi here).and im sorry for over reacting martiangirl
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Crossfire wrote:Epic and plot-driven sounds good to me. Heck, that`s the direction I`d like to take my stories in eventually....when I get around to them.
I would like a S3 to adopt an epic and plot-driven writing quality too. I think the show could now benefit from a bit more depth and crisis plotting which hopefully, could make it into a more memorable and exciting story. *Crosses fingers*
Yeah, and with more villains returning. I'm getting sick of all these new villains. Having old villains come back would really make it more epic. And more family members like Rev's family. We could finally see if WB has any intention of making Ace & Lexi somehow related. I doubt they'll make Ace go. Oooooh, but they might do that with Rev!!!! Think about it. Rev isn't really one of the most important characters of the show (compared to Ace, Lexi, and Duck) (despite his fangirl base being 1/2 as big as Tech's), and it WOULD add to his popularity for him to heroically come back. Plus, the team could see how important Rev, and everyone on the team, are required for them to really become The Loonatics. 0_o I had a weird moment up there.
zadavias_spirit wrote: Yeah, and with more villains returning. I'm getting sick of all these new villains. Having old villains come back would really make it more epic. And more family members like Rev's family. We could finally see if WB has any intention of making Ace & Lexi somehow related. I doubt they'll make Ace go. Oooooh, but they might do that with Rev!!!! Think about it. Rev isn't really one of the most important characters of the show (compared to Ace, Lexi, and Duck) (despite his fangirl base being 1/2 as big as Tech's), and it WOULD add to his popularity for him to heroically come back. Plus, the team could see how important Rev, and everyone on the team, are required for them to really become The Loonatics. 0_o I had a weird moment up there.
If they ever attempt to kill Rev off in any way, shape, or form, they're gonna hear about it. xx; He can leave the heroic sacrifices for the well-being of the team to Ace. x3 A good captain always goes down with his ship, after all. The time he and Ace were presumed dead, nobody even showed concern for Rev. -shakes head- No appreciation for the roadrunner. ;3
Uh, I kind of have to contradict you for a minute, Rye. *cowers* If you sk me, Slam is the one most likely to "comfort" Lexi than Tech, right? I dunno, but I would see Slam doing the "I will comfort you" thing in a different situation. Butn when Ace/Rev were "dead," I think Tech felt the need to do the "I will comfort you" thing 'cause he sympathized with Lexi the most, seeing that Rev was the closest to him. Although, yes, Rev was VERY underappreciated in that scene. But he's so nice he didn't say anything about it. Rev is nice. I have to admit, when Rev started to ramble for the first time after "dying," I thought that Lexi would kiss him on the cheek (beak? cheek? ) instead of putting a hand on his shoulder. Seriously, I have no idea how that thought came to me. 0_o I hope now I don't start a Rev/Lexi shippers. *hides*
Ohhhhhh nooooo...kidding, just kidding. Yeah, I think the lack of attention towards Rev was rather out of line in that scene, but the point of the scene was to show Lexi grieving for Ace, and if Rev survived, that moment wouldn`t last one second when he sensed Ace was still alive (unles his powers are linked to a planet`s magnetosphere...hmmm). One thing`s for certain: this means Lexi does apparently favor Ace just a tiny bit.
Certainly, she must`ve felt sorry for Rev too, but if my theory of Ace inspiring her to find strength within herself is anything to go by, then losing Ace would be the biggest blow of all to her, even moreso than losing one of the other `Tics, who are like brothers to her IMO. But, I`m sure she must have been sad for Rev too. If given a little more time, they might`ve mentioned him as well.
Something that just struck me: Could that moment have instead been a parody of fake death scenes in modern television?
I noticed how Ace did another 'fake death' type scene in "In the Pinkster" when he was pretending to have his powers sucked out of him by the fake Curium. Ace has done two fake deaths!
With what Black Oracle said, I think he said something like, "Good.....bye...." or something. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if I'm right, then WB has way too much time on their hands to make cheesy deaths (although I believed for a minute that Ace had lost his powers).
Ace did say that as he flopped onto the ground, totally over-dramatizing his loss of powers there. But i think they did that deliberately to pay tribute to Bugs' acting skills including his frequent pretences at being dead in the old LT toons.
Black Oracle wrote: I noticed how Ace did another 'fake death' type scene in "In the Pinkster" when he was pretending to have his powers sucked out of him by the fake Curium. Ace has done two fake deaths!
I'm kinda inclined to let that one slide. They did need a way to convince Pinkster that the Curium was real, and Ace, being the leader, was the most likely target for de-powering. That "Good-bye cruel woild"-type line was definitely a bit of homage to Bugs's recurring faked-death gags.
-- Edited by Skifox at 21:30, 2007-03-21
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Skifox wrote: *sing-songy* I dunnoooo, Duck was freaking out way more than Lexi this time... ;P
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Yes, Duck did look particularly worried that time. Maybe coz he felt directly responsible if anything happened to Ace, since it was him who had urged Ace to let Pinkster join them.
Skifox wrote: *sing-songy* I dunnoooo, Duck was freaking out way more than Lexi this time... ;P
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Yes, Duck did look particularly worried that time. Maybe coz he felt directly responsible if anything happened to Ace, since it was him who had urged Ace to let Pinkster join them.
I did notice that when I first watched that episode. Stephen Sustaric likes showing Duck does care for Ace, huh?
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Well, when you consider that Daffy went so far as to try to blow Bugs up in one cartoon, any amount of care Duck shows for Ace will look significant. Heck, any amount of care Duck shows, period, will look significant. (no offense to any Duckies)
Crossfire wrote: Well, when you consider that Daffy went so far as to try to blow Bugs up in one cartoon, any amount of care Duck shows for Ace will look significant. Heck, any amount of care Duck shows, period, will look significant. (no offense to any Duckies)
Hehehe...wait a minute...how many times has Duck shown he care for someone else? Maybe we should make a tally or something.
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um well i don't have anthing agaist ace or anything but to quot what do ya think tha loonatics would say to quote lexi:ace i..i..love you tece:i should've listan to you about getting out more rev:i promise to run everyday ace slam:fhfhsgh(good bye my friend) duck:im sorry i complained an blamed you all those times
I really agree with you i have a great feeling that they would all say that and i really hope they come up with a 3rd season i love this show bt how do you think ace would fake his death?
He would probably fake an accident and disappear in an explosion or something. I doubt he would fake something that might scar his teammates for life...