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well anybody knows what happened to him in the past?

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All we know so far is that Duck had a job as a pool cleaner and at the time, wanted to be a life guard. We don't even know if Danger is his real name or not.

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Shrouded in mystery and loved by all!

Okay, by practically no one...but hey, at least I can still claim title of his one and only fangirl!

Bugs Bunny doll: Hey, Jessica! I met another DD fangirl on the net!

-faint-

Bugs Bunny doll: Ooooh, not good.

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Danger is probably not his real name since he was obsessed with changing it, and it was Zadavia who basically commanded him to keep the name.

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Well if we knew about his past as in his childhood, that would explain why he behaves like he does today or in 2773 in this case.

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Well...we don't. XD

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Finally someone made a thread about Duck, and this is all you've got to say?

C'mon guys!  Let's start:

- Will we find out more about his past in the comming eps?
-Does he even have a bit of a romantic interest in Lexi? (I think it's possible, though the writers are steadily killing it off)

And finally, a common question that flows through the message boards:

What is his real name?!

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For Pete's sake, Duck lusts after her CLOTHES.  (Remember how he mentions that sequin jacket of hers he mentions in yesterday's ep?)  I think that one comment killed the possibility of Duck/Lexi right there for a whole lot of reasons.  One, for it's sheer insensitivity.  I think it's a fact: men in love DO NOT think about their desired girl's clothes when she's in need.  I speak from experience.  There's another reason I have, but I'm not going to share it for the sake of more sensitive forumers.  Just think of the last guy you ever met who's that fixtated on clothes and fashion.  Not to mention how he seems to like Ace better than Lexi anyway.  (Notice the real concern he had for Ace in "Secrets of the Guardian Strike Sword" and "Creep in the Deep".  No, I'm implying anything, really.)  Just sayin'. 

As for his real name, my guess is that we'll never really find out.  Some cartoons like to keep certain mysteries left open.  For example, in Powerpuff Girls, we never find out what Miss Bellum's face looks like.  There seemed to be countless opportunities for us to see it, but something or other always got in the way. 

Our being unable to know Duck's real name is just part of what makes him an enigmatic character.  His manner always seemed unabashed, but his real intentions are often kept vague.   I guess he just sucks at the relationships thing. 

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From what I've seen on FF.net, people sure like using Duck in fanfics. XD And a lot of DD-centered fanfics I've seen portrays him as a dark, mysterious sort-of fellow, with a dark, mysterious sort of past!

>_> <_< DuckxLexi. -hides from bricks that are coming from AcexLexi shippers- I didn't mean it, I swear!

WHAT IS DUCK'S REAL NAME. D:
(There is not supposed to be a question mark after that sentence.)



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Nice avatar Oddity.

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Thanks, but I didn't make it XD Miss XtremeCrazy did!

Your avatar's cool too. :D

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Duck used to be one of my favourites, but since the writers seem to be making him into a huge jerkface, he's slowly losing my liking of him.
Maybe if they make Marsden sing like he did when he was Max...*giggles*

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Darn you, writers!! You've lost us a Duckie!! -falls on knees- DARN YOUUUU!

Bugs Bunny doll: Stop shouting about ducks and finish your homework.

DARN YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!



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the_oddity wrote:

From what I've seen on FF.net, people sure like using Duck in fanfics. XD And a lot of DD-centered fanfics I've seen portrays him as a dark, mysterious sort-of fellow, with a dark, mysterious sort of past!

>_> <_< DuckxLexi. -hides from bricks that are coming from AcexLexi shippers- I didn't mean it, I swear!

WHAT IS DUCK'S REAL NAME. D:
(There is not supposed to be a question mark after that sentence.)



Alot of people like to give a reason for a character's odd and shunned behaviour, and none of the Loonatics are as odd and shunned as Duck. So that's probably why alot of fanfic writers like to give Duck a dark and mysterious past that contradicts his difficult external behaviour. Some people just take a shine to the spited heroes. 



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And then the writers taunt me with their power to make Duck look like a total jerk. D:

Duck: I'm not!

I know you're not! Which is why I'm so sad! D:

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A part of me is wondering now whether they're trying to lead up to something significant with the way they've been portraying Duck as an annoying character.

And about Duck's past and upbringing, i suspect it would be something similar to Duck Dodgers' childhood, where he was a total food hog and insensitive child that even called his parents 'neighbours'!

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Aw, come on! D: Surely you don't mean what you have said, Black Oracle! You cause me pain at your portrayal of my dear friend!

Maybe they're going to have a DuckxLexi pairing. O_O Like, Duck could be such a jerk to Lexi because he liked her, or something... -hides from AcexLexi shippers- I sawwey...

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Aw, come on! D: Surely you don't mean what you have said, Black Oracle! You cause me pain at your portrayal of my dear friend!

Maybe they're going to have a DuckxLexi pairing. O_O Like, Duck could be such a jerk to Lexi because he liked her, or something... -hides from AcexLexi shippers- I sawwey...


Sorry oddity. But i do think if they ever showed more about Duck's childhood and upbringing, they'd probably be likely to go with a story similar to Duck Dodgers'. And there was that one ep of Dodgers where the cadet, IQ-Hi and this other brainy villain ventured into Dodgers' mind and they discovered the appalling truth of Dodgers' childhood. Because Duck is so similar to his ancestor in the form of Dodgers, i'm inclined to think the LU writers are more keen to make Duck more similar to Dodgers.

And a Duck/Lexi pairing i don't see happening, but some fans can always imagine!  



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Well, there's still hope for our little waterfowl. >_> <_< I think.

I once read a DaffyxLola fanfic...

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You've noticed that Duck is becoming more of a jerk as the season goes along.

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D:< The writers are so mean.

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Duck was always portrayed as an annoying, egotistical, self-absorbed, unintelligent character from the beginning, but he does seem to be worse in S2 so far i think. In S1, he was mostly a glory-hog that competed with Ace for the spotlight, but now in S2, not only is he a glory-hog, but he seems to be much more insensitive, uncaring and selfish as well. Sorry for saying that oddity, but those are my observations of Duck so far.



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I'm sure there's something worth noting under the harsh, unpleasant face of the character we love! :(

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Whoof. Duck`s sure dropped on the popularity rank since the start of Season 2. For a while, they showed some promise of strengthening his character, but then with Cape Duck, all of a sudden they drop him into the Anti-Sue barrel. They`d better try and balance his charcater more without toatlly ruinign his unique traits, or else they`ll be losing some Duckies real soon, I`ll bet. Don`t worry Duckies, I won`t make Duck that bad.

...Okay, now I sound like I`ve lost it. Must...keep...sane...

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Agreed. I didn't like him much in season one, and with the direction season two is heading with his jerkface attitude and all I'm not going to be liking him very much for a very long time :P

That is unless the writers somehow get him involved with pushing the whole Ace/Lexi romance together, then oh sweet happy day! Gawd, I'm such a dork XD

Other than that... I haven't been much of a duck fan and probably won't be.

Daffy on the other hand is a completely different story ^^ *huggles the Daff*

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The writers are so mean. D:

In the meantime, we still got fanfiction to fix those things for us. XD

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Well, according to my book on dreams and dreaming (don't know what it has to do with this but there we go), ducks often denote some kind of superficiality or childishness, possibly because it floats upon it's own element of water.

We all know Duck to be opinionated and quick-tempered, but unless the writers decide to give Duck a break from being all silly, his popularity will crash and burn like a plane.

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Methinks it's too late. (crashing sounds)

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Oh dear, this is a phase the writers go through when they think that they have gotten the general outlines of a character and then enforce it in every way possible.....

Perhaps they will be doused with the reality that they are overdoing Duck's insensitivity and will tone it down a bit.

But if they are heading somewhere with Duck's extreme arrogance, they better come up with a good plot to justify his behaviour.

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Maybe they'll do that sometime...hopefully... D:

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Well, why is Danger Duck nicknamed "Duck"?

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Maybe:

1. The characters are too lazy to refer to him by 'Danger' or his real name (assuming 'Danger' is only an alibi), or

2. the writers got freakin' lazy, or

3. they tried to keep as much of the original 'Loonatics' design in there, so they had Duck as... 'Duck', or

4. the writers got- wait, I used that

5. Duck asked to be called 'Duck' O_o, or

6. ...I had a sixth reason...I swear

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Or perhaps Duck himself doesn't know what his name is.


OK, let's talk about something more interesting.....

Do you think we'll see Duck in swimming trunks in the upcoming episode?

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Well we did see him in some form of beach gear in "Menace of the Mastermind" in season 1. Maybe we could see him in some sort of trunks but maybe because if the rest of the guys wore swimming trunks, half or even nearly all of the population would melt at their favourite guys torsos.

Sees Rev in just swimming trunks.

Me: I'm melting! I'm melting!

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Well we did see him in some form of beach gear in "Menace of the Mastermind" in season 1. Maybe we could see him in some sort of trunks but maybe because if the rest of the guys wore swimming trunks, half or even nearly all of the population would melt at their favourite guys torsos.

Sees Rev in just swimming trunks.

Me: I'm melting! I'm melting!

Melts into a puddle of me.



*Sees Tech runnning along the beach in swimming trunks. Heavenly music plays in the background.*

Me: Hawt Teeeecccchhh!!!! *drools heavily*

Tech: Agh! *Runs faster.*
 



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Duck...in...swimming trunks... -faint-

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Me and Jacovie were arguing about Duck today. I asked for my picture back, and he said no, and then somehow, we wound up from there to debating about how Danger Duck should be allowed human rights.

Jacovie's PoV - he's not naturallly human, therefore can't have rights granted to humans.

Mine - he's a humanoid, can think for himself, therefore can have human rights, and he can do whatever humans can do too.

Now, someone else's point of view, plz.

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Well it's not just Duck you're arguing about, it's the other Loonatics as well when you think about it. On the one hand, they are indeed animals and most people think that just because they were only animals that just happen to stand on 2 legs, they treat them like dirt. In "Comet Cometh", the loonatics were treated differently to other people for different reasons.

The director probably was stressed about the movie and Ace wanted to give him his own opinions and ideas but the director was either too stressed to care or he could be prejudice about Ace being a rabbit and that he did not want to be over-shadowed by an anthro.

The chief cheerleader probably couldn't stand the fact that Lexi was so much better at cheerleading than her. Whether the reason was that Lexi was an anthro-rabbit or just jealousy, she didn't except her because of the fact that the chief cheerleader can't stand being over shadowed by Lexi.

Duck dreamt of being a hero but the lifeguard keeps ruining his dreams and orders him to "use the net". Either he was prejudiced that ducks can't be lifeguards or he was just fed up of Duck sitting in his chair all the time.

The man who chucked Tech out thought that he was just a "mad scientist" but then regarded him as just "mad". But maybe there could have some prejudice in there, we are not sure.

Obviously Cookie was a very prejudiced man not because he was doubting Rev, but he assumed that:

Road + Runner = Faster service = More money ($_$)

But then he was not too happy that Rev couldn't meet up to his standards and docking his wages did not help either.

The predjudice in Slam's story was obvious. The fact that Slam can't speak perfect English made people assume that Slam is a below average beast who can only use his fists and not his brain and that Slam doesn't have feelings. This was strictly not true when in the episode "I am Slamacus", Pierre said that it was a shame that Slam did not have the same amount of respect he had in the ring as he had as a superhero now. Slam felt that sympathy in Pierre's words. But did Pierre judge him like everyone else, and assumed that Slam was just a "dumb beast"?

On talent shows such as "The Slammer" and "Will I be famous tonight?", the contestants that perform with animals get more votes than those who perform without them. It could be that seeing animals in costumes, doing things that you normally don't think animals can do that humans can like jumping through hoops, dancing, speaking and singing that people find appealing. Or maybe it's the fact that people do think that animals are less superior than humans and when they do something that people least expect them to do, we find it amazing.

The other arguement is that they do have emotions just like you and me. All living things have emotions. They do have feelings. They laugh, cry, get mad, smile and portray a variety of emotions and feelings in different situations. As you noticed in "Comet Cometh", they did things that normal people do on an everyday basis. They all had jobs/gone to college like normal people do.

So I conclude that all living things have as much right as humans do to exist in the world. And therefore, if we ever have anthro species, we should embrace them with love and kindness.

I wish my general studies test was based on this. Then I would have got full marks.

Duck bursts into my room, soaking wet.

Duck: Akira! Why did you send me to Antartica!?

Me: Hey! I thought that I had made sure that I got rid of you so everyone else could have a turn on the spotlight!

Duck: Well viva my quantum quacking!

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Yep. Love and kindness. XD

See, Jacovie? Told ya! Just 'cause they got feathers and fur doesn't mean that they can't have human rights!

Jacovie: Okay! Okay! Geez! They're gay anyways.

...you know the Tech fangirls are so going to get you.

Jacovie: ._. Oh.


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Well it's not just Duck you're arguing about, it's the other Loonatics as well when you think about it. On the one hand, they are indeed animals and most people think that just because they were only animals that just happen to stand on 2 legs, they treat them like dirt. In "Comet Cometh", the loonatics were treated differently to other people for different reasons.

The director probably was stressed about the movie and Ace wanted to give him his own opinions and ideas but the director was either too stressed to care or he could be prejudice about Ace being a rabbit and that he did not want to be over-shadowed by an anthro.

The chief cheerleader probably couldn't stand the fact that Lexi was so much better at cheerleading than her. Whether the reason was that Lexi was an anthro-rabbit or just jealousy, she didn't except her because of the fact that the chief cheerleader can't stand being over shadowed by Lexi.

Duck dreamt of being a hero but the lifeguard keeps ruining his dreams and orders him to "use the net". Either he was prejudiced that ducks can't be lifeguards or he was just fed up of Duck sitting in his chair all the time.

The man who chucked Tech out thought that he was just a "mad scientist" but then regarded him as just "mad". But maybe there could have some prejudice in there, we are not sure.

Obviously Cookie was a very prejudiced man not because he was doubting Rev, but he assumed that:

Road + Runner = Faster service = More money ($_$)

But then he was not too happy that Rev couldn't meet up to his standards and docking his wages did not help either.

The predjudice in Slam's story was obvious. The fact that Slam can't speak perfect English made people assume that Slam is a below average beast who can only use his fists and not his brain and that Slam doesn't have feelings. This was strictly not true when in the episode "I am Slamacus", Pierre said that it was a shame that Slam did not have the same amount of respect he had in the ring as he had as a superhero now. Slam felt that sympathy in Pierre's words. But did Pierre judge him like everyone else, and assumed that Slam was just a "dumb beast"?

On talent shows such as "The Slammer" and "Will I be famous tonight?", the contestants that perform with animals get more votes than those who perform without them. It could be that seeing animals in costumes, doing things that you normally don't think animals can do that humans can like jumping through hoops, dancing, speaking and singing that people find appealing. Or maybe it's the fact that people do think that animals are less superior than humans and when they do something that people least expect them to do, we find it amazing.

The other arguement is that they do have emotions just like you and me. All living things have emotions. They do have feelings. They laugh, cry, get mad, smile and portray a variety of emotions and feelings in different situations. As you noticed in "Comet Cometh", they did things that normal people do on an everyday basis. They all had jobs/gone to college like normal people do.

So I conclude that all living things have as much right as humans do to exist in the world. And therefore, if we ever have anthro species, we should embrace them with love and kindness.

I wish my general studies test was based on this. Then I would have got full marks.

Duck bursts into my room, soaking wet.

Duck: Akira! Why did you send me to Antartica!?

Me: Hey! I thought that I had made sure that I got rid of you so everyone else could have a turn on the spotlight!

Duck: Well viva my quantum quacking!



Hmm. . .I don't know if I agree that they got a raw deal simply because they were animals.

Ace: Ace was a stuntman who was trying his hand at directing. The director was probably not thrilled about a lowerlevel guy trying to tell him how to do his job (even if Ace was polite about it). It's sort of the same thing when actors try to rewrite the script. I'm sure there are many directors who hate the fact that actors try to change their vision, but they have to tread lightly lest the cause a star to walk off. with a stuntman, the director doesn't have to be so diplomatic. Ace may not like that his ideas were ignored, but that's show business. It may have nothing to do with being a rabbit.

Lexi: Same thing. Diva's don't like to be upstaged. Top dogs like to stay at the top. And everyone else loved Lexi's routine. The leader didn't appreciate the guy next to her saying that Lexi was better than her. So it just may have been a case of girls being catty.

Duck: Well, we all know how Duck is. He even tries Zadavia's patience. Can you blame a guy who walks in on Duck not doing his job and just goofing around?

Tech: The man who was checking up Tech's project called Tech a mad genius. So he at least acknowledged his remarkable intelligence. We may not know his real intentions, but I think if we were him, we might think that a student may have a screw loose if he admits that he installed a self-destruct item on his science project. Really, who does that? Doesn't make a lot of sense.

Rev Runner: I think you are making quite a leap here. Some bosses are just jerks and take advantage of younger employees. Look at Pizza Guy's boss. Not only did hhis boss give his delivery boy the exact same speech Cookie gave Rev, he even said "I'll even give you 15 minutes off. . .every other Monday". Sounded like he was more interested in profits, even while his life was being threatened. So Cookie yelling at Rev is probably nothing to do with him not respecting animals. As for the guy who insisted Rev was late, some people will do anything for a free meal.

Slam: I think he actually has a legitimate reason. The guy he was "fighting" didn't have to call him all those names and insult him like that. It's obvious he didn't respect Slam or his feelings. Though I think the bit with Pierre was just trying to recruit fighters using methods he always uses, like with Gorlop.

I don't think by and large, the people of Acmetropolis have any prejudice against animal anthros. Being as there seems to be only 11 anthros in the known galaxy, it wouldn't be too difficult to make anti-anthro laws if they were so inclined. Before the meteor, what could they have done to stop them? And they do seem quite acceptive of the Loonatics, not out to get them like the Friends of Humanity are toward mutants like the X-Men (who are hated even while they are saving normal human lives).



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I tend to agree with Martiangirl's line of thinking about the opinions of Acme folk toward anthros generally. It does seem more like the Loonatics, before the meteor, were just accepted like anyone else in society. So much so that they, like many people, were still suscpetible to being advantage of and verbally smacked down in their jobs. Their seniors or employers held them in low regard, took them for granted and didn't pay them much respect, but not because of prejudice against anthros specifically i feel. Tho' that would be an interesting development for future eps i think.

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But what I want to know is if they can be treated like humans, whether they are or not - that was the source of the debate.

Jacovie's a 'species-ist'.

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But what I want to know is if they can be treated like humans, whether they are or not - that was the source of the debate.

Jacovie's a 'species-ist'.


Well, they're sentient and free-thinking beings, so i certainly think that earns and entitles them to 'human rights'.



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Yep yep.

Jacovie, however, thinks completely otherwise.



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Yep yep.

Jacovie, however, thinks completely otherwise.


I wonder how Jacovie would react to intelligent life forms from other planets then if he ever saw them? I mean aliens aren't 'human', would that mean he would automatically consider them lower to us simply because thay are a different type of life form?



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Hm... -attempts to imagine-

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alien: -land in front of Jessica and Jacovie- Greetings, Earth inhabitants. We come to-

Jacovie: OMFG! -runs away- JESSICA, RUN!

Jessica: -stares blankly at the alien- Please don't hurt me.

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...yes.

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and a little crazy sometimes.

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He grew up in an orphanage! The poor thing!

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Just like Daffy Duck did in "Bah Humduck". It was kinda cool that Duck had a best friend there.

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A best friend that betrayed him. XP

I still can't help but feel sorry for him...even though he cheated his way out.

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