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techfan979 · MagykWire

Prostitution

kari bunny · Out of This World

WTF is wrong with u techfan?

techfan979 · MagykWire

That is no kind of arguement!

Why would it not be ok for a man or woman to sell their bodies for sex that way?

Except for religous reasons, which you would then have to have a full arguement for why God exsists, and how we shouldnt be secular. Which kind of goes hand in hand anyway

Mistress of Fear · Martian

As long as it is voulantary and sanitary than there shoulden't be a problom.

In my stories I have explored the many things wrong with it mostly underage prostitution.

techfan979 · MagykWire

Underage prostitution, that should be illegal.

Frada The Ferret · Out of This World

I agree. But people over 21 (I don't think that 18 year olds should, even though they are legaly overage.) should be allowed to do it. As long as it's sanitary and voulintary.

techfan979 · MagykWire

Well, to be honest, some people are already mature enough to take things into their own hands when they're like 13.

And some adults are still as reckless or as immature as children.

I think it should be 18.

Mistress of Fear · Martian

I once saw a documentary on human trafficing and I'm like thinking 'OMG That could happan to anyone! for instance a woman goes on vacation in a forgien land and before she knows it she's trapped in trunk of a car headed for who knows where

techfan979 · MagykWire

That is slavery! I am fully and completely against that kind of thing.

You cannot punish the people who drive slave brothels enough.

But voluntary prostitution should become legal were it isnt legal. Its benefits a couple of things and gives people more economic freedom.

zadavias_spirit · Out of This World

While I agree with the points above, I highly doubt it will ever be legalized. Partly on religious beliefs, such as why gay marriage is not legalized partly due to religious reasons.
Yeah.

techfan979 · MagykWire

Depends on which country.

This is the global status on same-sex laws:

-- Edited by techfan979 at 15:34, 2008-03-25

Dragon Wing · Gone

South Africa allows gay marriage?!

Cripes, the more you know.

techfan979 · MagykWire

Yep and Spain (Big catholic country), who would of thunk it?

And America who is built on the idea that every man is created equal, and everyone should have justice and liberty, still has yet to legalize same-sex marriage and adoption, DESPITE they are the center of ''gay culture''.

I really do think its wrong though to call it ''gay'' marriage, as theres nothing really ''gay'' about it if two bi-sexual men/women married. Anyway gay is slang, so I really think the real term for it should be same-sex marriage.

kari bunny · Out of This World

Techfan its wrong to have sex for money gosh...

Dragon Wing · Gone

At first I misread that as "Techfan is wrong to have sex for money", and then I thought I was missing something.

zadavias_spirit · Out of This World

kari bunny wrote:

Techfan its wrong to have sex for money gosh...

Would you mind backing up that claim? What specifically is wrong about having sex for money as long as it's sanitary and voluntary?

techfan979 · MagykWire

Why Kari? You always need to back up such claims.

By the way, will all the people who said yes now vote in the poll.

-- Edited by techfan979 at 10:31, 2008-03-27

dOMITUPSYK · Loonatic

I think it should be legalized on those conditions, although, I think in the first place, it's wrong for a woman who works in the sex industry (porn, exotic dancer, etc) to be able to claim rape, unless they do a kit and find out she WAS. Unless there is both trauma AND semen, she should not be allowed to claim rape. And even THEN, they should be wary. Maybe it was just rough.

Anyhow, I think that because they work in the sex industry, and were fully aware that they are teasing those men, and that one could jump them if he's crazy enough. This also goes for the women who purposely wear those booby-baring shirts and skirts short enough for my 7 year old niece to wear- you do NOT wear that out in public and expect people NOT to look at you. Hell, *I* have a hard time not staring at boobs when they wear that stuff. And I think lesbianism is icky. (I want to hear nothing from the straight guys/gals, this is the same principal as straight guys liking to watch girls make out and expect us to have a threesome, but if WE suggest having a two guy threesome, we can forget about it.)

So why was it ok for t.A.T.u? Theirs was fake lesbo-ism: That was a publicity stunt forced on them by Ivan Shapovalov, and their contract stated that Lena had to lose 10 kilos, Yulia had to cut her hair really short and dye it black (from blonde), that they were going to do what he said and not complain about it. They signed it anyways, because they're not pansies like us Americans. >_> I'm off topic.

"What were you wearing when the incident occured?"
"A boob-top (my slang for "a mid-driff shirt that barely covers the boobs adequately"), a mini skirt short enough that an unborn baby could wear it low enough to show my thong, and thigh high boots."

No wonder she got raped. :/ (This is a senario, not a real story.) If I saw a guy wearing the eqivalent attire (SUPER tight jeans that showed his bulge REALLY well, and a muscle shirt), I'd want to tackle him and get busy, too. :/

Prostitution. Right. Er... legal under those terms. ONE LAST DEROGATORY COMMENT: We'd have a LOT of women that are "free prostitutes" (Ie, whores) if it became legal. (Yes, I am the opposite of a feminist.)

techfan979 · MagykWire

You make a good point doma, but the slutty clothes is their advertising.

We already have lots of whores. Legalization of prostitution wouldnt make more, some would only go over to becoming pay whores. Although I disagree on the idea that all prostitutes are slutty whores.

Take for example those speacil massage clinics. Those girls dont live in an alley way!

I find it funny the percentages are at 50/50 with 4 people, as there has yet to be a single arguement against.

-- Edited by techfan979 at 08:40, 2008-03-29

Jetsir · Martian

techfan979 wrote:

That is no kind of arguement!

Why would it not be ok for a man or woman to sell their bodies for sex that way?

Except for religous reasons, which you would then have to have a full arguement for why God exsists, and how we shouldnt be secular. Which kind of goes hand in hand anyway

Techfan, don't put people down, and would you please stop it with other people's religion?

Kenny McCormick · Anthros

[To be honest, prostitution disgusts me.]

[Why? Here is my reason...or reasons...whichever.]

[The clothes that females wear nowadays are seriously unattractive. I have no idea why females think that wearing revealing clothes would make them attractive. Well, maybe to drooling males who..."want some action". It is disturbing.]

[Also, selling your body for money...where is your self-respect? Where is your dignity?]

[I know that some people may be desparate for money, but selling your body is not the way to do it.]

[...I had more to add, but I seem to have misplaced my wittiness.]

techfan979 · MagykWire

Jetsir wrote:

techfan979 wrote:

That is no kind of arguement!

Why would it not be ok for a man or woman to sell their bodies for sex that way?

Except for religous reasons, which you would then have to have a full arguement for why God exsists, and how we shouldnt be secular. Which kind of goes hand in hand anyway

Techfan, don't put people down, and would you please stop it with other people's religion?

Ok, now you get off my back! I never put anyone down. Karis opion was ''Sex for money is wrong, gosh techfan, wtf is wrong with you?''

That is completely invalid and has no arguement! I said nothing but the truth.

For the second I was making it clear people could argue against prostitution for religous reasons, but that would only be valid if they also could argue that the god they follows exsists.

Thats all I said, WTF?!

techfan979 · MagykWire

Kenny McCormick wrote:

[To be honest, prostitution disgusts me.]

[Why? Here is my reason...or reasons...whichever.]

[The clothes that females wear nowadays are seriously unattractive. I have no idea why females think that wearing revealing clothes would make them attractive. Well, maybe to drooling males who..."want some action". It is disturbing.]

[Also, selling your body for money...where is your self-respect? Where is your dignity?]

[I know that some people may be desparate for money, but selling your body is not the way to do it.]

[...I had more to add, but I seem to have misplaced my wittiness.]

Well, that is'nt a very solid arguement. As you cant use your own repulsion of something as an arguement against it. Thats what alot of people who are against homo-sexuality do.

What you think is disgusting is your own personal prefrence.

In my own opion I dont think prostitutes are selling their bodies, as the person who pays them doesnt own them for the length of the intercourse.

They're just doing something with their bodies and someone elses for money. Many would disagree with me when I say this, but theres really not much diffrence in paying for a proffesional massage.

The masseuse receives some money from the client to physically pleasure that person with their own body. That is in essence no diffrent than what a prostitute does.

Does the person getting a massage own the masseuse? I think not. I'm sure the masseuse has dignity and self-respect as well.

Prostitutes arent necessarily poor gutter whores (Excuse my langauge). You have high classed prostitutes as well, and I can tell you their salary is'nt small.

kari bunny · Out of This World

Well it is discusting to sell your body for sex...even if it is sanitary,and the way they
dress is wrong and they have no self respect or dignity,they only do sex for money
because they were sexually abused,so techfan it is wrong ok so no matter what you
say,its still gonna be wrong!THATS my point!

techfan979 · MagykWire

Kari... I dont know where to begin.

The amount of biases and arguements (?) based on subjective self prefrences there is unbelievable!

Again you come with that ''ITS WRONG! PERIOD!!!'' attitude.

You say the way they dress is wrong? You cant say the way anyone dresses is wrong, thats a prefrence. Besides that who says prostitutes all dress the same? Your actuelly being discriminative

You say they sell their bodies, I argued why they're not selling their bodies anymore than a masseuse sells their body, and you completely ignore it.

''techfan it is wrong ok so no matter what you say,its still gonna be wrong!THATS my point!''

I'm going to be as harsh as to say until you learn how to argue, dont bother to post again. Its a complete waste of time with your ''IM RIGHT YOUR WRONG'' attitude.

Jetsir · Martian

I agree with you, Kari. Prostitutes have no respect for themselves.

They only do it for the money. Money that they are more likely than not to use to buy drugs. The fact that makes me really against prostitution is that fact that all those men and women had (or still have) a chance to choose a better job than selling their bodies. Sex (when it's not intimate) is easy and requires no brain power, all you have to do is look appealing to the buyer (and even then it's not always the case).

Though I don't agree with the point about how they dress. I've seen prostitutes in my area wear a variety of clothing, from t-shirts and shorts, to revealing leather, so it really varies depending on the prostitute in question.

Keep up the posting, Kari, you make some very good points.

kari bunny · Out of This World

I'll post because i have that right techfan and youre the one that think postoturion is right!

They have no respect for themeselfves and they sell there bodys becuase of it,its
not right that they do that ok,they get beaten and thing like that,they could go out
and become a docter or a zoo keeper,but insted they sell there bodys,so sont you
tell me that i cant argue and have no right to post techfan because I do....

Kenny McCormick · Anthros

[Techfan979: As I stated, I misplaced my wittiness. I had more than just personal opinion. And I am fine with homosexuals. They are nice people; I have a friend who happens to be a homosexual, and it does not bother me. Heh...]

[Kari Bunny: Heh. Funny you should state those points. Because that is EXACTLY WHAT I POSTED BEFORE YOU. I already stated about their self-respect and dignity. YOU CANNOT JUST STEAL WHAT I SAY. If you want to enforce what I stated, you can back it up by agreeing with me, but NOT BY COPYING WHAT I STATED.]

[Jetsir: Kari stole what I said. Plus, that person did NOT bring up many points. At least I brought up a few. Do not credit them.]

[Also, I have to agree with Techfan979 about Kari Bunny. He/she just ignores what people have to say, and I can see that.]

kari bunny · Out of This World

ok sorry chill out but i was just saying its wrong! weirdface

techfan979 · MagykWire

Jetsir: Who says they dont have self-respect or dignity? Not all prostitutes are drug addicts, but alot are.

Everyone always has the ability to choose a better job! Are you going to say its wrong for people to work at McDonalds then? Because your arguement can be used against them too! And everybody else who has a crappy job.

Again, its not selling your body! Read the last post I made! When a prostitute has sex with someone for money, its no more selling their body then when a masseuse gives someone a massage for money! Its the same thing:

Using your body to pleasure someone else for pay. So if your going to say its wrong to sell your body as prostitutes do, your also going to have to say its wrong to be a masseuse, because its really the same damn thing.

Countless jobs take no brain power, working at mcdonalds takes no brain power, making crates in a factory takes no brain power. Being an artist takes no brain power, you just have to be artistic.

Unless you find a problem with any of these, you cannot use this arguement against prostitution.

Kari: You dont back-up your claims, you dont argue why any of the things you stated is wrong, your spelling is horrible, and you dont listen to what people say to you. Forget it.

Kenny McCormik: By wittnesses, do you just mean more people who share your prefrences on slutty clothes, or what? Because that doesnt help anything.

To all of you: You all need to tell me how having no self respect or dignity has relevance to if prostitution should be illegal? Lots of people have crappy jobs and dont have self-respect or dignity because of it, the arguement your using can be used against all these people as well.

People can have self-respect dignity even though they have sex for money. Not everyone is like you. I know for a fact there are women and men who voluntarily become prostitutes because they find it exciting. Not all prostitutes are the same, and thats why all of these claims are completely invalid.

What you need to do is back-up how they're selling their bodies and why its relevant that they might not have self-respect and dignity.

Kenny McCormick · Anthros

[Techfan979: Witnessess? I said "Wittiness"...you know, as in "wit".]

[As for selling their bodies, some prostitutes do it for the desparate need of money. I am sure others do it for other reasons, but that is not my point.]

[Also, their loss of dignity and self-respect has to do with being used as tools for other peoples' sick, twisted pleasures. Well, maybe not sick and twisted, but whatever.]

[Being used over and over...that is not very respective of themselves.]

[As for me, I am saving myself for marriage (but since I am still underage, that will take a while).]

[So, how much is your body worth, hmm?]

techfan979 · MagykWire

Again, you still fail to explain how they're selling their bodies, and why its wrong.

They're not tools, they can say no if they really want. Especially if they're higher classed prostitutes.

How does constantly having sex mean your not respecting yourself? Not everyone thinks the same way you do about sex. You find it self-respectless, fine dont become a prostitute. Other people can find self-respect being a prostitute.

I wouldnt know how much my bodies worth as I never looked into it. If you mean how much I'd charge for sex... that would all depend on how the client looks and what they wanted to do.

I'd definately do some things for free, and I'd have all the self-respect in the world after doing it, because I didnt do anything that makes me lower than anyone else. Someone offered me money to please him/her with my body, and I did it. I'm no diffrent then before I commited the act, and now I'm alittle richer. Whats to lose self-respect about?

I dont view sex as something holy and intimate, and I have nothing against sex for money, which is why my dignity would remain completely intact. And I'd spit on those who dare think me lower for doing what I did!

Kenny McCormick · Anthros

[And, once again, you fail to see the bad side to it.]

[There is always the possibility of Sexually Transmitted Diseases spreading around due to prostitution.]

[It does NOT matter how careful you are; there is always the probability of getting it by having multiple partners during the act.]

techfan979 · MagykWire

Thats because you dont explain to me why, as long as you dont come with good reasons that apply to everyone, its nothing but a personal prefrence reserved to you.

Thats why I say I it should always be protected. I think we should make rules around prostitution to improve the standards. One of them should be mandatory protection against impregnation and STDs.

And you can have as many partners as you like, as long as they were condoms your fine.

dOMITUPSYK · Loonatic

All I can really say is, I'm not trying to sway anyone's opinion. All I know is what I think is right, and I think it's right that prostitution be legalized. If women WANT to degrade their bodies like that, then let them. I will argue here about dignity and self-respect, but I myself see those points as moot, because beleive it or not, I really don't have any self-respect myself, but you don't see me out here being a prostitute.

If you're going to argue, state your point and why you believe so, giving plausible arguments. I'm sorry, but "BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE IT" isn't valid. *Why* don't you like it? What else should be done in it's place, then? What's your solution? My solution is legalize it, this cracks down on the crime rate, frees up spaces in jails (although giving criminals fair treatment is bullcrap, that murderer that shot that guy to death for his money wasn't treating his victim fairly. But that's another discussion), boost the economy (I guess, I'm no expert in this field) because that's legal, taxable money, and probably other reasons I can't think of.

So from the other standpoint (example): No, it shouldn't be legal. I don't like it because blah blah blah and so and so, so we should do this to keep it off the streets.

... Other points were lost in my brain.

techfan979 · MagykWire

Thankyou doma. I dont agree on its degeneration of the body, but I dont care either.

Kenny McCormick · Anthros

[What if the condoms break during intercourse? The possibility of that happening is very slim, but it happens...]

[I mean, you never know, right?]

[Also, condoms are not 100% foolproof.]

dOMITUPSYK · Loonatic

That's her problem, not mine. :/ *harsh* Some of them don't use them in the first place.

techfan979 · MagykWire

Kenny McCormick wrote:

[What if the condoms break during intercourse? The possibility of that happening is very slim, but it happens...]

[I mean, you never know, right?]

[Also, condoms are not 100% foolproof.]

And, condoms can always break and give people HIV?

Condoms are fool proof as long as they dont break. Its a physical barrier between the penis and vagina, nothing can happen as long as it doesnt burst.

Kenny McCormick · Anthros

dOMITUPSYK wrote:

That's her problem, not mine. :/ *harsh* Some of them don't use them in the first place.

[That is also a good point.]

[But, whatever. It is their decision. If they want to be prostitutes and have the possibilities of getting STDs and/or become pregnant, that is their problem.]

dOMITUPSYK · Loonatic

Kenny: My point exactly. If it's truly a free country, then sex money should be taxable.

Techfan: COmdoms are only 33% effective. That's what they taught me, anyways, and I have serious doubts about the SC edu. system. :/ For all we know, they may have taught us SCians that sex is for the sinners and God hates everyone that has it.

Edit: I had a HTML tag that said "end criticism", but it ate it. D:

-- Edited by dOMITUPSYK at 18:26, 2008-03-29

techfan979 · MagykWire

33% effective? Bull****. I know how condoms are made and how they work. 33% is bull****.

Kenny McCormick · Anthros

[Actually, male condoms are only 85% effective.]

[At least, that is what I recall.]

dOMITUPSYK · Loonatic

I thought as much. They just wanted to scare us. I figured. Their scare tactic doesn't work anymore anyways.

techfan979 · MagykWire

I dont buy 85% either, I've know tons of guys that had sex with anything that moved, and always used condoms, they never had a break out.

Look how much water this condom can hold:

Jetsir · Martian

Good gosh Techfan! Fine! You win. If this is what you get for giving your opinion on this site, I'm not sharing it here anymore!

There is no right or wrong! That's why it's an opinionated pole! If you didn't want to hear what everyone else had to say, next time don't put a pole at the top.

You don't know everything, I don't either, so stop trying to prove eveyone wrong! And just so I won't be a hypocrite, I won't either. I'm done on this site. The only reason I'd post on here anymore is to finish my fanfic.

This site was supposed to be fun, but I guess I'll find my entertainment elsewhere from now on.

techfan979 · MagykWire

Well thats your decision Jetsir.

I know what is relevant to my causes. I would come with an arguement to your other statements, but your not the arguing type.

-- Edited by techfan979 at 20:48, 2008-03-29

kari bunny · Out of This World

Um im sorry Techfan please accept my apoligy,and so what if i cant spell!Anyway
I guess as long as they use condoms its ok,and techfan stop being so hard on people
ok were trying and now jetsirs leaving,so stop trying to prove your right and eveyone
else is wrong ok,like jetsir said this site is supposed to be fun not a debate,arguement
site,loosen up a little!

Dragon Wing · Gone

Many, many, things to say about all of this.

First of all let me say that I've been doing debate for years, studying just what kinds of arguments are valid towards a topic, fallicious towards a topic, or just plain irrelevant towards the topic. And frankly, there is a LOT of fallicious and irrelvant reasoning going on in here.

I'm not going to take a side here. Because, honestly, I don't really have a side. I can see it both ways. But there are some things in here that nearly made my brain explode in agony, so here goes.

"Techfan, don't put people down, and would you please stop it with other people's religion?"

As a reply to this.

"That is no kind of arguement!

Why would it not be ok for a man or woman to sell their bodies for sex that way?

Except for religous reasons, which you would then have to have a full arguement for why God exsists, and how we shouldnt be secular. Which kind of goes hand in hand anyway"

OK, Techfan isn't putting anyone down here. Analyzing it line by line, "That is no kind of argument!" Is that putting kari down? Blunt as it may be, it is not. It is the FACT. What kari said, something along the lines of "its just wrong, duh!"
is not an argument at all. It's an ASSERTION, yes, but not an argument until she backs it up with reasoning. Which she did not. Therefore, no put downs there.

"Why would it not be ok for a man or woman to sell their bodies for sex that way?" Is a question, not an put-down.

The 3rd reasoning having to do with religion could be viewed as a put-down, IF you didn't read it closely. He simply states that one could argue it's immoral for religious reasons, but that they'd have to argue that God does, in fact, exist, and that we should not be secular. This is a PERFECTLY ACCEPTABLE turn for the issue at hand: "should it be legalized?" You WOULD need to prove these things to effectively and truly illegalize it. So this is not a put-down; it's reality.

So there is no put-down there. Just over-sensitivity. And it's hardly "using everyone's religion" to do it. Someone might be offended by it, yes, just as someone might be offended by the fact that 14 girls got pregnant in a contest to see who could get pregnant first. Doesn't make it any less true.

"[The clothes that females wear nowadays are seriously unattractive. I have no idea why females think that wearing revealing clothes would make them attractive. Well, maybe to drooling males who..."want some action". It is disturbing.]

[Also, selling your body for money...where is your self-respect? Where is your dignity?]"

This is perfectly valid as an opinion, yes, but to the topic at hand, "should prostitution should be legalized", it holds absolutely no legal precedent.

Girls could wear really ugly clothes in a strip club or even a water park or something as part of their jobs, doesn't make them illegal. So that argument drops. And self-respect isn't a unique argument towards prostitution either; one could feel humiliated being a mascot, or as a freak in a circus, or something like that. Doesn't make those illegal either, so that argument drops.

Yes, I realize that you didn't give these arguments as a reason why prostitution should be legal, but why it disgusts you. In that case, these arguments are valid towards that assertion. But I will use these 2 arguments as an example for the rest of the topic:

Any argument dealing with the 'slutty clothing' or 'lack of self-dignity' associated with prostitution as a reason to illegalize prostitution holds NO relevance to the topic at hand, since none of those things are actual legal offenses.

"The masseuse receives some money from the client to physically pleasure that person with their own body. That is in essence no diffrent than what a prostitute does."

Eh, not always. In fact, many masseueses are pharmacutical; that is, people go to the masseuse in question to heal muscle ailments. That is hardly the same as prostitution. However, yes, a lot of people do go to a masseuse for physical pleasure. In that case, the comparison of a masseuse to a prostitute is completely subjective; it depends on how significant you think the act of sexual intercourse is in relation to one person relaxing another by professionally relaxing their muscles. I wouldn't use this comparison as an argument, for future reference, as it's pretty damn subjective.

"Well it is discusting to sell your body for sex...even if it is sanitary,and the way they
dress is wrong and they have no self respect or dignity,they only do sex for money
because they were sexually abused,so techfan it is wrong ok so no matter what you
say,its still gonna be wrong!THATS my point!"

Gross.

Jeez, where to begin.
1.)Are you saying that they only go into prostitution because they were sexually abused? That is just completely wrong. I don't even have to provide sources on that.

2.) Again, the "no self respect of dignity" argument holds little to no weight in this topic. Don't use it.

3.) No No NO NO NO NO NO NO NO! Do not EVER say "it is wrong ok so no matter what you say,its still gonna be wrong!THATS my point!" If I were a judge in a debate round, I would disqualify you for that comment on the SPOT. It is so condescending, ridiculous and atrocious. I generally don't a person any credibility if they say stuff like that; I dismiss them as a hopeless case. I will give you a break here, since you were probably angry when you posted this, but SERIOUSLY, don't EVER say anything like that. EVER. EVER EVER EVER. Grrrr, makes me ANGRY.

"I agree with you, Kari. Prostitutes have no respect for themselves."

OK. And that might be true. But, in context of the question should it be legalized, so what?

"They only do it for the money. Money that they are more likely than not to use to buy drugs. The fact that makes me really against prostitution is that fact that all those men and women had (or still have) a chance to choose a better job than selling their bodies. Sex (when it's not intimate) is easy and requires no brain power, all you have to do is look appealing to the buyer (and even then it's not always the case)."

Well, yeah, they only do it for the money. But the text in bold REALLY made my skin crawl. That is an EXTREMELY harsh generalization. I would seriously want some hardcore sources to back that little nugget up, but you don't provide any. So that point as it is is doesn't mean much.

"they could go out and become a docter or a zoo keeper,but insted they sell there bodys,so sont you tell me that i cant argue and have no right to post techfan because I do...."

No. You are acting like prostitutes are in it for the sex. Seriously, if they could get a respectable job such as a doctor or a zoo keeper (?), they would. I would say about 99% of prostitutes become prostitutes because they don't have those options. There may be those select few that DO do it for an easy gig with sex in it, yes, but you CANNOT cross-apply that argument to prostitutes as a general populace. So this is not a valid argument.

You are correct in the fact that you have a right to post, though. But I'd advise you to come up with stronger points.

"Heh. Funny you should state those points. Because that is EXACTLY WHAT I POSTED BEFORE YOU. I already stated about their self-respect and dignity. YOU CANNOT JUST STEAL WHAT I SAY. If you want to enforce what I stated, you can back it up by agreeing with me, but NOT BY COPYING WHAT I STATED."

OK, CALM DOWN. Holy crap.

And she did not merely "copy" what you said. She brought up some new points (such as they could have OTHER careers such as being a doctors) that you did not. I checked. Sure, it was a fallicious argument, but still. Wow.

"Countless jobs take no brain power, working at mcdonalds takes no brain power, making crates in a factory takes no brain power. Being an artist takes no brain power, you just have to be artistic."

Correct. I wanted to say this earlier, but I forgot to. So I'm requoting it now. And because of these turns, arguments stating that prostitution should be illegal because they take no brain power are both fallicious and irrelevant.

"your spelling is horrible"

No. Don't rag on your opponent for spelling; it's very petty.

"I dont buy 85% either, I've know tons of guys that had sex with anything that moved, and always used condoms, they never had a break out."

I just have to address this real quick. Male condoms have 85% - 98% effectiveness, and female condoms have 79-95%.

That is all I really stuck out to me. But yes, I don't know the length of this post as of typing, but it's probably a lot.

If I were to judge this argument non-biasedly (and I don't have much bias anyway, as I earlier stated), I would easily say that the "prostitution should be legalized" (affirmative) side is winning. Their points are pretty valid, while the negative's points either don't have any weight with the question at hand or are just false.

I could think of plenty of reasons why prostitution shouldn't be legalized, and the only one of those I've heard stated in here was that it could spread STDs, stated by Kenny. Other than that, those negating really need to step it up.

Edit: Crap. Two really, really important posts were made during the writing of this one. That makes most of what I said useless, not to mention pretty damn harsh. There goes an hour of my life. V_V

-- Edited by Dragon Wing at 13:47, 2008-03-30

techfan979 · MagykWire

kari bunny wrote:

Um im sorry Techfan please accept my apoligy,and so what if i cant spell!Anyway
I guess as long as they use condoms its ok,and techfan stop being so hard on people
ok were trying and now jetsirs leaving,so stop trying to prove your right and eveyone
else is wrong ok,like jetsir said this site is supposed to be fun not a debate,arguement
site,loosen up a little!

Its the controversy section. Its perfectly fine to have debates here. For me to be nice I have to put people above my politics, and I dont do that.

I will never loosen up.

By the way, thankyou very much Angela for that last post. But it kind of shocks me that male condoms are at worst only 85% effective, 15% chance of bursting I guess, because its not like theres a 15% chance of sperm getting through the condom.

Its amazing! Do you know how much a condom can take? How hard they're tested in the facetories? Then some guy can burst them with his hee-hoo.

-- Edited by techfan979 at 22:25, 2008-03-29