Very intresting obeservations there Oracle!
Call me sadistic, but listing Rev's hyper-activeness as ADHD just makes me giggle slightly.

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I guess all this gives new meaning to the name 'Loonatics' huh?

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You said it!

I hear there's tons of speculation about how nearly every recognizable super hero has some sort of diagnosable mental or emotional disorder. I don't have any trouble imagining why. It's awful fun to speculate about though, even if the writers aren't going to explore it likely enough.

Whatever Duck's problem is, I think it goes a bit deeper than narcissim. He probably just craves love and attention that he believes he has to work for to deserve, even from his team/pseudo family. Or maybe he puts up this big, proud front because he has a secret phobia of intimacy, of letting people know just how things are on Planet Duck. It's probably why he choses to fanboy over Misty Breeze; it feels more safe than an actual relationship. Someone just go over to him and give him a hug, please.

Now, this I definately agree with:


Tech is often absorbed in his own world and posseses obssessive interests in technology. He seems to be underdeveloped emotionally as well, often coming across as blunt or rude to others, and this can lead one to wonder about his level of empathy for others. Could Tech possess some Autistic spectrum disorder? Either classic Autism or Aspergers syndrome perhaps? It has been suggested i believe that geniuses like Einstein may have had some kind of Autism too.

It's exactly why there are so few geniuses; they don't really spread their genes. It's also why I'll always laugh out loud whenever a fan fic writer gives Tech a girlfriend. (Other than the sheer plot device factor)

Anna: Yeah. He's too much of an emotional retard to even get one. Talk about contrived.

Lexi seems to be quite concerned with her body appearance. I hope she doesn't have some kind of mild anorexia. Plus she seems awfully close to Ace alot, emotionally and physically (often standing very near him) which might indicate a bit of an unhealthy attachment to him. If ever Lexi thinks Ace is in trouble, she becomes very concerned and anxious. I wouldn't be surprised to see her suffering 'separation distress' if Ace was gone for a long while either.

I doubt she's anorexic. Honestly, how many times has she actually worried about her appearence in the series? I can only remember two or three. Not to mention, you'd have to have a lot of strength and stamina to endure what Lexi pretty much does for a living. (even if they technically aren't paid.) I think health is a bit more important to her than looking 'perfect'. As for her attachment to Ace, I think it's only natural. Besides, clearly he doesn't mind whatever attachment she has. It must not be THAT bad...

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I hear there's tons of speculation about how nearly every recognizable super hero has some sort of diagnosable mental or emotional disorder. I don't have any trouble imagining why. It's awful fun to speculate about though, even if the writers aren't going to explore it likely enough.

Whatever Duck's problem is, I think it goes a bit deeper than narcissim. He probably just craves love and attention that he believes he has to work for to deserve, even from his team/pseudo family. Or maybe he puts up this big, proud front because he has a secret phobia of intimacy, of letting people know just how things are on Planet Duck. It's probably why he choses to fanboy over Misty Breeze; it feels more safe than an actual relationship. Someone just go over to him and give him a hug, please.

Now, this I definately agree with:


Tech is often absorbed in his own world and posseses obssessive interests in technology. He seems to be underdeveloped emotionally as well, often coming across as blunt or rude to others, and this can lead one to wonder about his level of empathy for others. Could Tech possess some Autistic spectrum disorder? Either classic Autism or Aspergers syndrome perhaps? It has been suggested i believe that geniuses like Einstein may have had some kind of Autism too.

It's exactly why there are so few geniuses; they don't really spread their genes. It's also why I'll always laugh out loud whenever a fan fic writer gives Tech a girlfriend. (Other than the sheer plot device factor)

Anna: Yeah. He's too much of an emotional retard to even get one. Talk about contrived.

Lexi seems to be quite concerned with her body appearance. I hope she doesn't have some kind of mild anorexia. Plus she seems awfully close to Ace alot, emotionally and physically (often standing very near him) which might indicate a bit of an unhealthy attachment to him. If ever Lexi thinks Ace is in trouble, she becomes very concerned and anxious. I wouldn't be surprised to see her suffering 'separation distress' if Ace was gone for a long while either.

I doubt she's anorexic. Honestly, how many times has she actually worried about her appearence in the series? I can only remember two or three. Not to mention, you'd have to have a lot of strength and stamina to endure what Lexi pretty much does for a living. (even if they technically aren't paid.) I think health is a bit more important to her than looking 'perfect'. As for her attachment to Ace, I think it's only natural. Besides, clearly he doesn't mind whatever attachment she has. It must not be THAT bad...

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It's true! Superheroes must be a severely traumatised or psychologically problematic lot to go out in public every night dressed in tights patrolling a city for crime! I mean it's just not 'normal' behaviour!

And what you say about Tech makes a sad sense! He's not gonna ever get himself involved in complicated emotional relationships. That sort of matter is out of his comfort and familiarity zone. The only thing he can probably make sense out of in life really is technology, which always has a calculatable answer to most of its problems. Social relationships are a whole 'nother department for him. *Sigh* Tech...destined always to be alone and isolated...

And nah, i don't think Lexi really has too much of an anorexia or emotional attacment problem either. But i was just picking out possible symptoms of them in her which could in time become exaggerated if she's not careful.

If anyone, Duck`s the one who`d get anorexia. He` s made at least two remarks about watching his weight, as opposed to Lexi`s one quote I can remember from STWIWTGO. And yeah, I can see how Lexi would grow attacthed to Ace. Of course, I think there`s another motive behind that

I wouldn`t go so far as to say Tech has autism, but I think he`d be a little insecure and immature when it comes to social matters (kind of like me; I happen to be a little shy and crowd-weary), although if it came down to political or formal ordeals, I think he could manage. Tech seems like he`d be good at formal arrangements. A gentleman beneath the genius, you could say. Athough, if he was together with Mallory, then he`d probably be wary of starting another relationship (one of the reasons why I believe he could never develop a romance with Lexi).

Black Oracle wrote:

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Tech is often absorbed in his own world and posseses obssessive interests in technology. He seems to be underdeveloped emotionally as well, often coming across as blunt or rude to others, and this can lead one to wonder about his level of empathy for others. Could Tech possess some Autistic spectrum disorder? Either classic autism or Aspergers syndrome perhaps? It has been suggested i believe that geniuses like Einstein may have had some kind of autism too.

Ace, well i'm not sure about him. But you never really seem to see him scared of anything. Is there a psychological disfunction with a 'fearlessness' characteristic out there?

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Well if Tech did have some form of autism or even asperger's, I guess I can sympathise him on that. Cos to tell you the truth, it's hard to admit, I too have asperger's syndrome. Asperger's syndrome is a disorder where you can't quite get to grips with social behaviours of people e.g. being easily manipulated by street wise people, into doing something which is wrong or getting upset cos your daily routine has been interupted or changed. My theory is from experience that although we're not quite sure if Tech had this sort of disorder. But if he did, from his personality, he would be pretty confident. Although he'll mostly shut himself away from other people, at least he is good at his specialist hobby, inventing things.

Ace, we'll unless something traumatic has happened to him and he has to keep a brave face about it, I guess Ace has natural bravery and invincible courage so that he can still get his team mates to have faith in him.

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If anyone, Duck`s the one who`d get anorexia. He` s made at least two remarks about watching his weight, as opposed to Lexi`s one quote I can remember from STWIWTGO. And yeah, I can see how Lexi would grow attacthed to Ace. Of course, I think there`s another motive behind that

I wouldn`t go so far as to say Tech has autism, but I think he`d be a little insecure and immature when it comes to social matters (kind of like me; I happen to be a little shy and crowd-weary), although if it came down to political or formal ordeals, I think he could manage. Tech seems like he`d be good at formal arrangements. A gentleman beneath the genius, you could say. Athough, if he was together with Mallory, then he`d probably be wary of starting another relationship (one of the reasons why I believe he could never develop a romance with Lexi).

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Tech could have Aspergers syndrome! Which some have described as a milder form of autism. He would just come across as a little more odd to others with his habits, but still act acceptably. I dunno. With Autistic spectrum disorders, symptoms really do vary hugely from individual to individual. I would know, a psychiatrist has diagnosed me with characteristics of Aspergers before, but that was a long while ago when i was going through a depression phase and was at my worst psychologically. *Sees everyone shifting away from me slowly.* Hey, but i'm better now!

And yeah, i could see Tech being very presentable for formal, academic and political situations. He'd probably be more comfortable with impersonal scenarios that require you to put up a certain set of manners rather than a personal intimate encounter.  

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Well, the thought about Rev having symptoms occured after reading a few things about him; but not the others. Ace and Tech; it's just hard to believe that such brave heroes could actually have faults and problems. The weird part is that Rev is happy with the way he is no matter what he has and doesn't have. I mean, that's good, right. He's so confident and loves himself so much, but at the same time, it's sad to see the kind hearted Rev, be diagnosed with something. I don't think that Lexi would be considered aneorexic, which is weird because she does care about looking good. Tech, I don't believe it; it can't be. He's just so smart. As for Ace, I'm shocked' I've never seen Ace ever have a problem in his life, ever. Usually, when a person has something, it stops them from doing many things. So, how could Ace have a dissorder and still remain confident and on his feet all the time? That makes no sense. I'm not sure that Rev would have ADHD, because what happened to him was from the comet. It wasn't really a natural thing and he is focused on the field all of the time. Only when the team could have fun and enjoy themselves, they all get unfocused, just to relax.

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Y'know Rev, i actually think faults and problems make a character a whole lot more relatable and fascinating to an audience. They're not necessarily a bad thing. I think part of the reason that Batman is so popular is coz of his dark psychology: he's a driven hero, traumatised by his tragic past. He bottles up much emotional turmoil and keeps a stone cold and distanced exterior. Those are traits that make the Batman unique amongst superheroes. Superman on the other hand has had problems with being seen as too perfect by many, and this is why he's probably not done as well as the Batman in popularity.

Nah, you shouldn't feel bad, Doma's been wondering that herself. Black_Oracle, I'm no expert, but you may have OCD. It rumored to happen to everyone at least once, but not classified as OCD until it happens frequently.

~IG

I Have Asperger's like Tech. My specialty is art and writing.

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Nah, you shouldn't feel bad, Doma's been wondering that herself. Black_Oracle, I'm no expert, but you may have OCD. It rumored to happen to everyone at least once, but not classified as OCD until it happens frequently.

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Actually, they initially diagnosed me with obssessive-compulsive disorder, but then a little while later they said i had features of Aspergers syndrome rather.

And Rev, Aspergers syndrome, kinda difficult to define, but as quoted from the O.A.S.I.S. site (online Asperger syndrome information and support, http://www.udel.edu/bkirby/asperger/aswhatisit.html):

"Asperger Syndrome or (Asperger's Disorder) is a neurobiological disorder named for a Viennese physician, Hans Asperger, who in 1944 published a paper which described a pattern of behaviors in several young boys who had normal intelligence and language development, but who also exhibited autistic-like behaviors and marked deficiencies in social and communication skills.

Individuals with AS can exhibit a variety of characteristics and the disorder can range from mild to severe. Persons with AS show marked deficiencies in social skills, have difficulties with transitions or changes and prefer sameness. They often have obsessive routines and may be preoccupied with a particular subject of interest. They have a great deal of difficulty reading nonverbal cues (body language) and very often the individual with AS has difficulty determining proper body space. Often overly sensitive to sounds, tastes, smells, and sights, the person with AS may prefer soft clothing, certain foods, and be bothered by sounds or lights no one else seems to hear or see. It's important to remember that the person with AS perceives the world very differently. Therefore, many behaviors that seem odd or unusual are due to those neurological differences and not the result of intentional rudeness or bad behavior, and most certainly not the result of "improper parenting".

By definition, those with AS have a normal IQ and many individuals (although not all), exhibit exceptional skill or talent in a specific area. Because of their high degree of functionality and their naiveté, those with AS are often viewed as eccentric or odd and can easily become victims of teasing and bullying. While language development seems, on the surface, normal, individuals with AS often have deficits in pragmatics and prosody. Vocabularies may be extraordinarily rich and some children sound like "little professors." However, persons with AS can be extremely literal and have difficulty using language in a social context."

And Stella, you have Asperger's too? Btw, i'm not saying Tech definitely has Aspergers, i just suggested he displays some possible characteristics of it. Can't believe there's three of us here with a diagnosis! What are the chances? Oh boy, i think i may have started a thread on mental disorders here!

*falls over* Maybe that's what's wrong with Paulie- Maybe he's not a genius after all and just said that for some odd reason. O_o He sounds EXACTLY like Brainiac 5, if any of you besides Jessi and Doma have watched it.

Paulie: Fighting for peace is a hypocrasy that needs to be abolished.

O_o I've never heard an 8 year old say "hypocrasy" or "abolished", let alone know what they mean. >.< Yargh, off subject.

Tech may also be epileptic: a lot of major history-changing people were. Alexander the Great was one of them. It's rumored many geniuses go nutz before they're time- Einstein would walk out in the middle of winter without a coat. And Faust says Germany is basically Antarctica in the winter. (Doma does that too, but she does it on purpose. And at least she takes the coat with her.)

This sounds mean, but I'd actually like to see Tech go crazy.

Loonatics: O_o;;

Tech: What?

Ace: Eh, Tech... we're in the middle of a battle.

Tech: So?

Rev: Where's-your-costume-and-your-sense-of-decency?

Tech: *looks down* Oh, dear.

Three of us? You mean I am not the only one? Who else is a fellow Aspie?

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I Have Asperger's like Tech. My specialty is art and writing.

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I have it too. It isn't easy but you just feel like a normal person. Only, you progress a little later than normal people. My speciality is performing arts, drawing and playing music.

Glad I'm not the only one here!

Black Oracle wrote:

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Akira_Cat wrote:

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StellaMagic wrote:

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I Have Asperger's like Tech. My specialty is art and writing.

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I have it too. It isn't easy but you just feel like a normal person. Only, you progress a little later than normal people. My speciality is performing arts, drawing and playing music.

Glad I'm not the only one here!

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Funny they always say that people with autistic type disorders tend to do better in factual subjects like sciences and maths, but Stella, you and me are more into creative subjects! I'm doing an English Language with Creative Writing degree at uni now. Although, back at high school, i always used to score quite high marks in sciences, even tho' i detested them! Strange huh?

And yes, we are 'normal' people. I hesitate to use that term really, coz seriously, what is 'normal'? Everyone in the world is different from one another, and 'normalacy' encompasses a whole range of personalities and behaviours. Who's to say that people with so called 'Aspergers syndrome' are the deviant ones? We're just another different type of mindset amongst many!

Btw, love ur new "Superstar" avatar there Akira! Hey, 'superstar', 'avatar', that rhymes! He! He!

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Yeah. Come to think about it, I too did really well with science and maths. Maybe people with aperger's syndrome do better in those subjects because it just brings forward straight-forward facts with nothing that can defeat that sort of logic. I found out when doing this data research project in ICT that I'm more better handling numbers than with words. My guess is you guys are the same too. Just a thought.

 I agree. I usually copy stuff from books whenever the teacher says "put this in your own words" just to impress them with my formal language and detailed explanations.  They never found out... yet.

Right now, I just feel brain-dead cos of the dizziness from the illness from yesterday so I'm just gonna not think too much about that.

 Thanks for that Black Oracle.  And may I just say I'm feeling a whole lot better. Only, I have this inkling that there is a iddy biddy bit of dizziness still in me. But at least I can stand up without wobbling or nearly collapsing over. So yeah I guess I'm feeling fine now .

You think you can find any symptoms or mental disorders for Zadavia? Or what about the other villians?

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Zadavia: Reclusive tendency

Optimatus: Megalomania

Weathervane: Younger sister complex (blame Misty for that)

 

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Zadavia is rather reclusive isn't she? You don't suppose she's agrophobic (fear of open spaces) is she? But i wouldn't be surprised if she easily gets very anxious, what with all the emergencies she monitors daily.

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Weathervane: Younger sister complex (blame Misty for that)

 

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What is the younger sister complex, and can you diagnose Mastermind?

Mastermind i think has always thirsted for ultimate knowledge, hence why she built that neural machine and configured it to absorb knowledge from all the professors at the Institute in the past. I think she believes knowledge is power and will do anything to gain or prove her superiority in intelligence over all others. I'm not sure i know of a psyciatric disorder title that would fit her exactly tho'.

Tech with schizophrenia? *Imagines Tech hallucinating wildly.* Hmm...

Tech vs Brainiac 5? That'd be interesting to see!

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Black Oracle wrote:

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Tech vs Brainiac 5? That'd be interesting to see!

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IT. SO. WOULD.

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*Envisions scenario...*

Braniac 5: I'm a 12th level intellect! You cannot hope to compete with my unmistakable, robotic logical superiority!

Tech: I'm gifted with higher and vaster intelligence than most organics! Plus, I probably have more emotional comprehensibility than you android!

Brainiac 5: EQs do not win battles!

Tech: No, but they do make you a better socializer! And since you're not human, you're just an unfeeling, emotionless hunk of junk!

Brainiac 5: And you're an inferior intellect! Prone to making mistakes!

Tech: Inferior?! Mistakes?! How dare you insult my competence you verbalising cold machine!

Brainiac 5: Take this coyote! *Throws a data disc at Tech.* Behold! The collected wisdom of the Coluans! 

Tech: Ha! Your advanced alien coded knowledge can't crack me! *Throws a paper diploma at Brainiac 5.*

Brainiac 5: Your pathetic Earth academic qualifications are inaccurate, biased ratings of intelligence!

Tech: *Gasp* (Angrily) Oh, it's on now!

Brainiac 5: Bring it on!

*The two geniuses suddenly engage in a dirty, barbaric brawl, exchanging kicks and punches at one another.*

Bouncing Boy: For a couple of supposed 'geniuses', those two sure look primitive and immature right now.

Rev: You-said-it-BB!-Hey!-BB!-You-have-the-same-initials-as-Beastboy-from-the-Teen-Titans!-Cool!