I know you may think I'm too fixated on this pairing, but so far in two eps, most fans have seen signs of those two having a relationship in the past and still have one.
Here are the signs so far:
-Tech looked uneasy when Zadavia told the Loonatics she broke out of prison.
-In the flashback, Tech looked happy as he helped Mallory with her project.
-When Tech let the police take Mallory away, he looked real sad.
-Tech did not use his powers on the driller Mallory was on.
-Tech called Mallory a genius for using HQ to fight him.
-Tech took on Mallory on his own.
-He said he only had problems with her ego, but not her intellect.
-Tech roped her in after her defeat.
-Mallory mentioned him being sensitive.
-Tech took on only Mallory again when she, Sypher, Massive, and Weathervane broke out of prison thanks to Optimatus.
-Tech said her using Prisoner SPecific Defenses were nice.
-Mallory sounded like she gave a hint to Tech about the deactivation code. (Nothing could get in or out of that cell) like nothing could get in or out of that locker. Mallory obviously didn't trust Optimatus from the start.
-Mallory didn't let Sypher absorb the Loonatics. I thought she would have been happy seeing Tech powerless.
-Tech knew that the code was actuall a locker combination they shared back in college. This started the idea of a Tech/Mallory pairing.
-Tech and Mallory went one-on-one again. They didn't change opponents like Ace and Lexi did.
-Plus, Mallory theorized that the Loonatics parished in a noble act. She could have just said stupid.
Ooooh-kay, I see someone is going just a smidge overboard with the Tech/Mallory-ness. Okay, so I`ve gone to even greater exents to try and provide evidence for Ace/Lexi (gotta be careful not to get hypocritical), but some of these "hints" seem to be born from a little over-reaction. I, too, suspect Tech and Mallory had something, but so far I`ve seen nothing to convince me it`s absolutely concrete.
Mallory gave an obvious hint when she told that nothing could get out of the cell without the deactivation code. I'm pretty sure that someone with her intellect can sense a double-cross from Optimatus. Okay maybe I got carried away, but I had a weird tingly feeling like I was sensing something.
I'm being stupid today. X( That's why I'm countering all your reasons. Please don't kill me, it's just me being stupid (or my conscience personified telling me to get busy or start studying).
StellaMagic wrote:
I know you may think I'm too fixated on this pairing, but so far in two eps, most fans have seen signs of those two having a relationship in the past and still have one.
Here are the signs so far:
-Tech looked uneasy when Zadavia told the Loonatics she broke out of prison.
Maybe he's just afraid of getting attacked? X( Once again, me being stupid. I have a sort of reason to back this, though.
-In the flashback, Tech looked happy as he helped Mallory with her project.
Maybe he's just happy to help anyone. XP Hey, look! More of me being stupid!
-When Tech let the police take Mallory away, he looked real sad.
Well, maybe (look how many 'maybe's I use) he thought that Mallory had potential, but she went awry, and so he's all sad...and stuff. X( -sigh- Me being stupid.
-Tech did not use his powers on the driller Mallory was on.
Maybe he thought...that...Mallory...was...uh...still...good? Er...or maybe, he just wanted to talk it out?
-Tech called Mallory a genius for using HQ to fight him.
...well, yeah. I would've said that.
-Tech took on Mallory on his own.
Maybe he didn't want anyone else to get involved - if anyone else did, then she would be mad at them too. ...I would've done that.
-He said he only had problems with her ego, but not her intellect.
...kinda confused with this reason...
-Tech roped her in after her defeat.
Why not? What, was he supposed to taser her or somethin'? Is there any other way? Hmm... -attempts to think of other ways to subdue a villain-
-Mallory mentioned him being sensitive.
Ahahahahahahaha. -is finished with mocking Tech for now- Sorry, Tech's just to easy to laugh at...and I'm confused with this reason also...
-Tech took on only Mallory again when she, Sypher, Massive, and Weathervane broke out of prison thanks to Optimatus.
...why not, again?
-Tech said her using Prisoner SPecific Defenses were nice.
Ack! Something I don't recall! X(
-Mallory sounded like she gave a hint to Tech about the deactivation code. (Nothing could get in or out of that cell) like nothing could get in or out of that locker. Mallory obviously didn't trust Optimatus from the start.
OH NOES I IS TEH CONFOOZLED AGAIN
-Mallory didn't let Sypher absorb the Loonatics. I thought she would have been happy seeing Tech powerless.
Maybe she wanted to put up with more of a fight. You know villains these days, always underestimating the heroes and never trusting anyone, etc, etc... And I don't think she trusted Sypher.
-Tech knew that the code was actuall a locker combination they shared back in college. This started the idea of a Tech/Mallory pairing.
Oooh. I have almost nothing to counter that. (Of course, there's always something, but it'll take a while to dig it out...)
-Tech and Mallory went one-on-one again. They didn't change opponents like Ace and Lexi did.
...maybe...'cause...Mallory...wanted...revenge? You know, revenge on the hero who put them in jail? And stuffs?
-Plus, Mallory theorized that the Loonatics parished in a noble act. She could have just said stupid.
She also could have used a whole barrage of fancy vocabulary to subsitute for 'stupid'. And 'stupid' is so plaaaain. You can't be a super-villain without a bit of fancy vocabulary. And 'noble' sounds cooler that 'stupid'. So plaaaain. XP
I think most people will label the matter of a previous Tech and Mastermind romantic relationship as unconfirmed for now Stella. The ONLY possible (and I emphasize on 'possible'!) indicator of a previous romance they may have had was when Tech said that they shared a locker in college and that "It's a long story". All those other reasons you listed don't immediately strike me as definite signs that Tech and Mastermind were a couple.
Of course Tech would look worried when he heard that the crackpot lady he put away in prison a while ago had escaped! She had sworn revenge on Tech as she was being dragged away by the police! Wouldn't that concern you?
And Tech would be happy to be aiding his student on her project wouldn't he? He was tutoring her!
And you wouldn't expect Tech to be looking pleased as he watched the police dragging Mallory away. I think you can understand why a teacher would be saddened to see his pupil go bad and have to be put away. It doesn't mean he was in love with her to have such a reaction.
And i think the main reason Tech didn't use his magnetic powers on the driller that Mastermind first attacked him with was that he was too occupied with dodging her attacks and didn't get a chance to strike back.
I think Tech recognises and has respect for intelligence generally in people. I don't think he complimented Mastermind as a genius just coz he was attracted to her. He was acknowledging the brilliance of her scheme to attack her enemies from within their own stronghold. I mean he also displayed admiration for Dr. Chroniker's work and intelligence when he said "It's an honour to meet you Dr. Chroniker! I've read all your research!". Surely that doesn't mean Tech was 'attracted' to Dr. Chroniker as well!
And no surprise that Tech always fought Mastermind on his own. She is meant to be 'his' personal foe. He was the one that put her away the 1st time, he'll be the one most likely to deal with her again. Mastermind primarily wanted revenge on Tech, so of course Tech would fight her the most rather than any of the other Loonatics. Tech knew that Mastermind wanted to take him on, so he faced her alone. Plus, Tech would be the one that knows most about how and is most capable to handle her in battle, being that they both are all about brainpower.
And like i mentioned before, i think Tech recognizes and respects intelligence where he sees it. So when he said to Mastermind that it wasn't her intellect he had problems with, but that it was her "swollen head" (meaning her ego and lust for power), he meant that as it was. I don't think that statement of his was meant to have another meaning of him liking her romantically. Mastermind had just said to him before: "You were always jealous of my brain power!". Tech denied the truth of that belief on her part by explaining that her intellect was not the problem he had with her, but that it was her mad ambitions. He hence concluded to her why he had to put a stop to her before. Her evil desires was what caused him to take her down before and to be doing it again in "Menace of Mastermind". I think this is also what strongly makes the chance of Tech and Mastermind ever liking each other again in future very unlikely. Tech's a good genius, Mastermind's an evil genius. They're sworn enemies now. That's it.
Tech roping in Masterming to capture her also doesn't at all seem like a possible indicator of Tech being in love with her either. He was just tying her up to restrain her until she was back in jail. He couldn't have used any devices or machinery to capture her either at the time, coz his EMP device had knocked out all electricity in the vicinity.
Mastermind called Tech "so sensitive" because Tech had just angrily told her once and for all that "I'm not a dog, I'm a coyote!", hence expressing his extreme annoyance at the incorrect reference she'd been giving him. You're taking these statements out of their contexts in your interpretation of them.
And as i said before again, Mastermind is Tech's mortal enemy, so in the Acmegeddon eps, it's not surprising that they faced each other again. Plus the writers probably figured that it was more of a match to be pitting the two brainy ones against each other.
And Tech commenting to Mastermind that her 'prisoner specific defenses were nice' was again him acknowledging the brilliance and cleverness of her thinking, not him expressing his love of her!
And i don't see how Mastermind could have been hinting to Tech about the deactivation code either. If she was, it certainly was not made obvious. She was just telling the captured Loonatics how their chances of escape from the cell were impossible without the code.
I agree with you though that she may not have entirely fully trusted Optimatus from the start, but she decided to go along with his plans anyway. She just didn't have much of a back-up plan against him tho'. Hmm, rather unwell prepared of her isn't that?
No doubt Mastermind wouldn't have minded having Tech and the other Loonatics stripped of their powers to eliminate the possibility of them being a threat in future for them, if not for the fact that she, Weathervane and Massive didn't trust Sypher either. She didn't allow Sypher to steal the Loonatics' powers so that he wouldn't become too powerful and another threat to her.
Mastermind said at the end of Acmegeddon part 2 "My guess is they perished in some stupidly noble way so that Acmetropolis would survive." The fact that she mentioned the word 'noble' was not at all an indicator that she thought what the Loonatics' must have done was a respectable thing. She was just emphasizing the (in the eyes of villains) stupidity of such heroic deeds.
Wow! It's like Black Oracle took all of my reasons out of the big pile of reasons in the back of my mind, seperated them, and made them all nice-like and stuff! -hug-
the_oddity wrote: Wow! It's like Black Oracle took all of my reasons out of the big pile of reasons in the back of my mind, seperated them, and made them all nice-like and stuff! -hug-
LOL! I was just expanding with my own explanations.
I have an annoying feeling that this Tech and Mastermind romance issue will never really be resolved. Some will always prefer to believe that they were a couple back in their Institute days, others will still say that remains to be proven. I'm in the latter. Not enough information has been given in the show to confirm or deny this.
Another possibility perhaps is that Mastermind and Tech didn't date in their pasts, but it may have been that one or the other was attracted to the other for a short while, but just never entered a romantic relationship.
Akira_Cat wrote: Well if they showed an episode based on this question, that would definately draw up some conclusions.
Somehow i don't think i'd want to see another ep entirely devoted to Tech and Mastermind again. One's enough. But an answer to the question could be raised at some point in some other ep story.
I don't approve of Tech/Mallory (see my rant as I played the DVD game in the DVD section), but I guess you have a point, StellaMagic. Or many points. *hides from Black Oracle and oddity* GAH!! I had a really good idea for a youtube vid. with Tech/Mallory *hides again* only (a.) I can't make videos/slideshows and (b.) I don't have a youtube account. Darned. If someone is interested I could post it and somebody could make it
I don't support the idea of Tech and Mastermind either. I just don't find Mastermind at all appealing really. All she is to Tech now is an embittered academic rival.
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