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Kenny McCormick · Anthros

RE: Tech+Rev?(Don't get me started!)

ShagsterP · Anthros

Kenny McCormick wrote:

[Um...Thank you?]

[Anyway, I like your idea, ShagsterP. Nobody has used that idea yet, so your fanfic is certainly going to be very interesting and worthwhile. I can hardly wait for it to be written.]

[You wanted gift ideas for the other Loonatics, right? How about...a half-eaten cake from Slam? Hehehe...]

[As for the others, I cannot think of anything else.]

Heh, I've got a few good ideas for pretty much every member except Lexi, honestly. I'm finding it a little difficult coming up with a girl's gift from a guy's perspective cry

Anyway, I recently did a short writing exercise on something completely unrelated. I'm hoping to use it as an example of my current level of writing skill, but I could only imagine posting it up in the randomness section of the forum. If anybody's interested, feel free to check it out here: http://www.activeboard.com/forum.spark?forumID=84895&p=3&topicID=11597456

Skifox · Frelengian

I'm definitely likin' this idea, and who said Rev couldn't give him two birthday gifts?

Perhaps you should use your uncertainty about Lexi to your advantage. She might be as unsure what to get a guy as you are about what a girl would get.

ShagsterP · Anthros

Finally have a sig! Hehe, I'm shameless biggrin

kaejae · LUO's Next Top Poser

That's great! XD

Animefangirl11 · Anthros

ShagsterP wrote:

Finally have a sig! Hehe, I'm shameless

I NOW LOVEZ YOU MORE YOU SLASHY GENIUS. DX I should have thought of something like that.

Skifox · Frelengian

BWAHAHA!

Best signature evar! XD

Black Oracle · Black Hole Survivor

I'm not a Tev supporter, but that sig got a chuckle outta me as well Shagster! He! He!

Akira_Cat · Your local cat

I love the sig too Shagster!

Hee hee! I love how your put a bit more to make it funny! Ha ha!

ShagsterP · Anthros

Heh, humor is the only thing that gets me attention *scoops up attention and seals it in a jar*

So, continuing on with the infatuation, I thought to myself "Why not compile all the subtle Tech/Rev closeness moments that point to more in the show?"... which I'm doing now...'cause I'm hopeless biggrin

...or evil furious

. You choose.

Weathering Heights: Do I need to say it by now? The famous (or infamous) rescue and wink scene. People can translate that however they like.

The Family Business: Rev's general interactions toward Tech. It's in friendship form, I know. But it got me all bubbly when Tech wipes off Rev's forehead while off screen aww

The Music Villain: Rev randomly places his hand on Tech's shoulder twice throughout that episode, the second time for apparently no reason (other than just being sweet ^_^).

The Comet Cometh: "Hey you don't have to worry about that Ace because Tech has plotted a course that allows us to avoid contact with any large objects and if anyone can do that it's my man Tech!" Hehe.. his man Tech XD

Those are just some of my favorite fluff moments I can think of for now, heh. When I think about it, it's more as if Rev would be pushing himself toward Tech than vice versa, and mean ol' Tech is too dang anti-social to figure it out hmm

. Hmm, the fanfic I draw inspiration from has Tech fighting his indecisiveness when it comes to personal feelings, but I think I'll feel more comfortable keeping it heavily Rev-based after this short analyzation, though I plan on handling both points of view.

-- Edited by ShagsterP at 14:03, 2007-05-11

Black Oracle · Black Hole Survivor

Nuuu! Think not slashy thoughts! Think not slashy thoughts! Too late...I thought of some...

ShagsterP · Anthros

Haha, give in! The new sig pic I made demands it. It ain't slash fantasy if it's true! wink

Super Freak · Beast

I love your sig, ShagsterP!

ShagsterP sig:
Rev: "If you weren't a coyote -and a guy- I'd kiss you!"
Tech: "Lucky for me, I'm both."
Rev: "Aw who'm I kiddin'?" *smooch!*
Tech: "Gah!"

That's a wonderful listing of the great moments of Tech and Rev.

ShagsterP · Anthros

Super Freak wrote:

That's a wonderful listing of the great moments of Tech and Rev.

Anybody else, feel free to add your own. I haven't seen all of season two, so I don't know everything.

Skifox · Frelengian

New sig w/pic = (awesomeness of old sig)¹⁰ biggrin

ShagsterP · Anthros

Okay, so my aforementioned fanfic is progressing, though it's still unofficially in the works; what I'm working on right now is a detailed skeletal plot outline from beginning to end. Writing is the easy part, but connecting everything together and bringing all the possible ideas down to earth is more difficult. Fortunately, I've pretty much connected most of the dots by now, so all is good.

I still majorly suck at titles, though. Does anybody have any ideas to throw out? For those who missed the premise of my fic (or are too lazy to read back =P), I'll post it here:

"Unfortunately for Tech, it's his birthday. Despite his attempts at keeping the information private, it manages to become known and grabs the team's attention for the day, creating one distraught Tech and a bothered Rev. But the big questions are: What do you get for the city's smartest coyote who can make just about anything he wants? And can Rev discover the source of Tech's self conflict?"

Skifox · Frelengian

I'm no good with titles, either. You'll think of something by the time you finish.

You still want me to beta-read this thing?

ShagsterP · Anthros

Mm, yea. I'll probably give you something to gander at later on once I've felt competent in truly getting it going. I'm just taking my sweet time, is all. I don't plan on rushing myself, so it's slowly getting there. You originally gave me that advice, after all =P

Silver Wolf · Human

To be honest I've found alot of fanshipping (especially when it isn't actually in the show) to be a bit odd. Its as if anything between two characters is a sign of love (rivalry, friendship, fights, mortal enemies, etc). I'm not trying to offend anyone and I'm not saying it's bad to ship, just that competition between shipping groups as well as the facts that prove the shipping (x did this for y that means x+y is 100% true, etc) seems a little farfetched and trivial, but that's just my opinion.

Corncering Tech and Rev, I always just thought if them as best friends or partners like Sonic and Tails, Sherlock Holmes and Dr.Watson, or T-Bone/Chance and Razor/Jake from Swat Kats. Do they have a sort of brotherly relationship? Certainly, but I wouldn't call them secret lovers.

ShagsterP · Anthros

It's true that all we have to work off of are little signs here and there. I still find it suspicious that all these cute gestures happen mostly between these two only, though. But I admit a good amount of these conclusions are drawn from personal beliefs. It's not that we're saying "it's definitely happening", just that they have solid relationship material, so it's believable in that sense that they'd make a really great couple.

Though a small percentage of me still wonders about the legitimacy of it all. You all do know that Lexington from the Gargoyles series is officially gay, right? You just never know.

Daphne Dingo · Martian

Pegasusmon: Yay friendship! Boo romance!

Me: That was Pegasusmon speak for 'We think they're friends, and if they become a couple somebody's gonna get bricked!'

Black Oracle · Black Hole Survivor

ShagsterP wrote:

It's true that all we have to work off of are little signs here and there. I still find it suspicious that all these cute gestures happen mostly between these two only, though. But I admit a good amount of these conclusions are drawn from personal beliefs. It's not that we're saying "it's definitely happening", just that they have solid relationship material, so it's believable in that sense that they'd make a really great couple.

Though a small percentage of me still wonders about the legitimacy of it all. You all do know that Lexington from the Gargoyles series is officially gay, right? You just never know.

Well i gotta agree with Silver Wolf in that i've always thought of Tech and Rev as partners or brotherly friends, but everyone is entitled to their opinions.

And Lexington from Gargoyles can't be gay! Didn't he squabble with Brooklyn and Broadway over Angela in one ep?! biggrin

Ayelet_Ripley · Frelengian

Regarding Tech and Rev's 'official' relationship, I really have to agree with you guys that it's brotherly. I don't know about Tech and like to think he swings both ways but to me the Family Business episode proved that, officially Rev is heterosexual.

I don't particularly ship any pairing, I'm into all of 'em, really. Even Loonatic/fancharacter pairings, as long as they're well written/drawn.

What I don't like are people who obsess over a certain pairing and think it's the holy truth and get all bitchy as soon as they see one of the characters of the pair they ship, with someone else. That's what truly bothers me.

Crossfire · Frelengian

Well, while I am an avid Ace/Lexi shipper (maybe to the point of borderline obsession), I`ve got enough respect for my peeps around here to let them ship who they will, so long as they return my respect, which they do.

ShagsterP · Anthros

Black Oracle wrote:

And Lexington from Gargoyles can't be gay! Didn't he squabble with Brooklyn and Broadway over Angela in one ep?!

Heh, funny you should bring that specific situation up. One day at a con, the main writers were blatantly asked by someone "Is Lexington gay?" and they spilled the beans, along with all the plans they had for him. They purposely gave him insecurities during the whole ordeal with Angela and the others, hence why he ultimately backed down. They were going to run him through a "discovery" phase. Seriously, I'm not making this up. It was a fairly large revelation. This is also why I fear for poor Rob Paulsen when he goes to AC... >_>

I'm not really relating something like this to Tech and Rev, seeing as Gargoyles was very much more mature than something like Loonatics Unleashed, but I like to keep an open mind. You never know what those writers are intending

Ayelet_Ripley wrote:

What I don't like are people who obsess over a certain pairing and think it's the holy truth and get all bitchy as soon as they see one of the characters of the pair they ship, with someone else. That's what truly bothers me.

Yea, well, I'm the opposite (aside from the obsessive part) in that I only support and enjoy plausible relationships. Can't stand placing everyone with everyone. Sort of makes the good relationship possibilities lose their heart, you know? Not that I care to go against what people like, of course.

Hehe, but we can still be friends, right? XD

Ayelet_Ripley · Frelengian

I see what you mean.
But I find fun in pairing up characters of all types, those that don't seem to be compatible are often the couplings that are the most interesting to me.
Of course, if there'd be an official pair in LU, then I wouldn't play around. Nothing pisses me off more than fans that break up set pairs, but this is just me and i'm aware that I may be a bit hypocrite in saying it, since i previously stated that everyone should be free to ship whatever they want.
I don't choose friends based on their preferences :)

Oh and, just to be sure no one misunderstood me, I'm wasn't pointing fingers at anybody in this forum. So far LU is the most accepting fandom I found. ^_^

And as for the obsession, there's absolutely nothing wrong about that. It's when obsession leads to intollerance and hatred, that it becomes a problem. You guys may be obsessed (just as I am for some things biggrin

) but we're getting along just fine. Isn't that what matters? :]

-- Edited by Ayelet_Ripley at 15:05, 2007-05-30

Kenny McCormick · Anthros

Ayelet_Ripley wrote:

I see what you mean.
But I find fun in pairing up characters of all types, those that don't seem to be compatible are often the couplings that are the most interesting to me.
Of course, if there'd be an official pair in LU, then I wouldn't play around. Nothing pisses me off more than fans that break up set pairs, but this is just me and i'm aware that I may be a bit hypocrite in saying it, since i previously stated that everyone should be free to ship whatever they want.
I don't choose friends based on their preferences :)

Oh and, just to be sure no one misunderstood me, I'm wasn't pointing fingers at anybody in this forum. So far LU is the most accepting fandom I found. ^_^

And as for the obsession, there's absolutely nothing wrong about that. It's when obsession leads to intollerance and hatred, that it becomes a problem. You guys may be obsessed (just as I am for some things ) but we're getting along just fine. Isn't that what matters? :]

-- Edited by Ayelet_Ripley at 15:05, 2007-05-30

[... "But I find fun in pairing up characters of all types, those that don't seem to be compatible are often the couplings that are the most interesting to me." ...]

[Does that mean...Maybe...A SlamxRev pairing? Or an AcexRev pairing?]

[Please-please-please-please-please...]

[And you're right; as long as we get along, we're fine.]

RevRunner · Frelengian

I really can't stand slash pairings. Especially, when it involves Rev.

Kenny McCormick · Anthros

[Well, to each their own. Not everyone likes slash pairings, and I respect your opinion.]

Ayelet_Ripley · Frelengian

As a bisexual, I obviously don't have anything against slash pairings. =P

Ace/Rev is fine. As I said I like all pairings, so long as the story is well written or the art is well drawn. The exception to this is only Slam, but only because I see him as too childish and simple minded for a relationship. I do like the big guy, he's adorable :]

Kenny McCormick · Anthros

Ayelet_Ripley wrote:

As a bisexual, I obviously don't have anything against slash pairings. =P

Ace/Rev is fine. As I said I like all pairings, so long as the story is well written or the art is well drawn. The exception to this is only Slam, but only because I see him as too childish and simple minded for a relationship. I do like the big guy, he's adorable :]

[Haha! Awesome! I thought nobody would like the whole Ace/Rev pairing idea! Thanks for proving me wrong about that! Hehehe...]

[...I'm going to ask Bartholomew about a plot for this idea...]

axelfar · Human

Homosexual parings are always controversial and highly debated. The most common argument is that the characters are simply not gay.

While this holds true for most characters, it does not hold true for every character. In our society, an openly gay character would cause an uproar and get the show cancelled, so the writers might write the character as straight or downplay their sexuallity.
Only the people in charge of the show really know the sexuallity of the characters in question.

As ShagsterP noted, Lexington is gay. The only reason we know this is because the writers told us he was. Nothing in the show signified he was gay, but had the show not been cancelled, hints might have started showing up. If it had gotten that far, people would still be arguing about his sexuallity, arguing that there where plenty of instances in the show that proved he was straight.

So in the end it's pointless bicker over the sex lives of fictional characters. It doesn't matter to me if TechxRev is canon or not. I like this paring and shipping doesn't have to make sence. I support any paring within reason.

Kenny McCormick · Anthros

[Good point, Axelfar...I agree with you. Who cares if it isn't official? We, the fans, like it (Well, some of us do)...So anything can happen in fandom.]

Skifox · Frelengian

Well said, Axelfar. A gay character would mean death for a kids' show in this day and age.

I'm of the opinion that the writers were concerned about parents' possible perceptions of Rev and Tech's relationship and added 'that' scene in "The Family Business" to protect themselves and WB from potential backlash. The catch is this: The people who would take issue with gay characters generally don't know very many, if any, actual gay people and would be assuaged by Rev and Tech remarks, but non-heteros and people close to them would know that that sort of banter often occurs between gay men. That loophole allows the characters to be what the writers want them to be without worrying about having problems.

Whether or not that's what was in the writers' heads, I don't know. I subscribe to that interpretation, and to the belief that Tech and Rev are bisexual and mutually attracted, though not actually in any type of romantic relationship.

The canonicity of pairings really isn't important. There's nothing canonical (or sometimes rational) about fanfiction, yet we write it and enjoy it nonetheless. The same basic principle applies to most fanart. As long as people's shippings don't start a civil war, all is well.

ShagsterP · Anthros

Not to mention large corporations like to test specific demographics by pandering to them subliminally. That brings to mind the fact that Nintendo specifically marketed their Nintendogs DS game towards young girls and gay men. Seriously. That's just how the world works nowadays, and you only really see it if you go out and look. That's how conditioned we are.

I don't know why it is that such a large percentage of homosexuals tend to be huge Nintendo fans. Guess I'm an exception.

axelfar · Human

Really?

Well, it makes sense if it makes them more money. Or it could be a coincidence. Wasn't part of the SpongeBob controversy that SpongeBob products were popular amoung gay men?

Dragon Wing · Gone

I'm... not sure. For the whole mess of reasons listed above, it obviously wouldn't exist on the actual show, and be restricted to fan arts/fictions. That being said, I can see their relationship either being really sweet or really... not right. I guess it just depends on how well its executed. Despite that, one thing we all know for sure is that they have a great mutual friendship =D

Kenny McCormick · Anthros

[Axelfar: I thought Spongebob was a cartoon to prove that "Gay is Okay". There's nothing wrong with being gay, and it's not a disease. I could be wrong about the show being homosexual, but that's not the reason why I don't like it.]

[Dragon Wing: Another valid point. As I said before, anything can happen in fandom.]

ShagsterP · Anthros

axelfar wrote:

Really?

Well, it makes sense if it makes them more money. Or it could be a coincidence. Wasn't part of the SpongeBob controversy that SpongeBob products were popular amoung gay men?

Yes, in a way. That show wasn't produced with all that in mind to begin with, but generally speaking, its largest demographic audience has ended up being people in their 30's.

axelfar · Human

It's interesting how sometimes a show's target demographic can be usurped by a different demographic.

On that note, what is LU's target demographic and it's actual viership?

Skifox · Frelengian

The whole Kids'WB block is intended for the 6-11 age range. I don't know about the actual viewership, nor do I know how this forum's age distribution compares. The vast majority of us are beyond the target age, some by a decade or more.

axelfar · Human

Skifox wrote:

The whole Kids'WB block is intended for the 6-11 age range. I don't know about the actual viewership, nor do I know how this forum's age distribution compares. The vast majority of us are beyond the target age, some by a decade or more.

You make me feel old XP

At least we'll alway be young at heart.

ShagsterP · Anthros

"Want to be more than info super highway traffic. Want to be more than a walking demographic."

Heh, brought a song to mind. But yea, in yo' face, intended viewer age! We'll always be technically young =D

And yes, practically all Saturday morning cartoon shows are meant to generate viewership from the age range that Skifox mentioned. We're just weirdos, is all ^_^. The sad part in today's "creative" media is that they are based on how much revenue they'll manage to gain via merchandise, and LU is no exception. Though I'm still waiting on said merchandise and plan on sweeping up all Tech and Rev related items like a madman. Haha, my friend's going to hate me.. >_>

ShagsterP · Anthros

Rejoice, (all two of you)! I have completed my broad scene-by-scene outline of my entire fanfic and the events are now set in stone from beginning to end. Eight extended scenes in all, every bit subject to change, though I'm happy with the overall completion of it.

I wanted to focus on writing something borderline romantic so everybody can enjoy it. My intention is to push their relationship a little bit more than the subtleness in the show, but not truly cross the line like every other fanfic and make it mind-numbingly sappy. There are no "OMG I luv j00!!!11" statements or any awkwardly huge intimate moments, thank you. I'm aiming for something more sentimental than that and leaving it so people can interpret a future for the pair however they like once it's over. There is also no world-saving in this story, seeing as it's purely based on the characters' personal lives. Hopefully, I've created something that both Tech/Rev-ers, as well as fans in general, can enjoy.

So now I'll get to the actual writing of this soon (even though I already started ahead of time in a notebook). Don't expect a rush job, though. I just wanted to get the word out, since it's my lone contribution to the fandom.

Ski, do you want me to send you the plot outline to look over? It's a Wordpad file and I currently have no means of sending you anything. PM me if you're still interested in helping out.

Animefangirl11 · Anthros

ShagsterP wrote:

I wanted to focus on writing something borderline romantic so everybody can enjoy it. My intention is to push their relationship a little bit more than the subtleness in the show, but not truly cross the line like every other fanfic and make it mind-numbingly sappy. There are no "OMG I luv j00!!!11" statements or any awkwardly huge intimate moments, thank you. I'm aiming for something more sentimental than that and leaving it so people can interpret a future for the pair however they like once it's over. There is also no world-saving in this story, seeing as it's purely based on the characters' personal lives. Hopefully, I've created something that both Tech/Rev-ers, as well as fans in general, can enjoy.

THANK YOU. Seriously. Just once in my life I'd like to read a Tech/Rev story that isn't eye-bleeding-ly OOC. >___<;;

So yay ^_^ I can't wait till its all done X3

Ayelet_Ripley · Frelengian

You're actually getting me curious as well. I may draw the couple, but fanfics in general just never catched my interest (safe for one and even there I didn't really like the way the characters've been portrayed). I'm looking forward to this one!

axelfar · Human

Wow, you sure are putting a lot of effort into your story. And taking your time will mean that it will be worth the wait to read :)

Dragon Wing · Gone

ShagsterP wrote:
I wanted to focus on writing something borderline romantic so everybody can enjoy it. My intention is to push their relationship a little bit more than the subtleness in the show, but not truly cross the line like every other fanfic and make it mind-numbingly sappy. There are no "OMG I luv j00!!!11" statements or any awkwardly huge intimate moments, thank you. I'm aiming for something more sentimental than that and leaving it so people can interpret a future for the pair however they like once it's over. There is also no world-saving in this story, seeing as it's purely based on the characters' personal lives. Hopefully, I've created something that both Tech/Rev-ers, as well as fans in general, can enjoy.

You know, that sounds really, really good. I've never minded seeing Rev and Tech as a couple at all, but almost every fan fic I've seen dealing with the subject goes wayyyyy over the top as you mentioned. And of course, the fact that it's purely personal-based is awesome too, since the personal aspects of the show are pretty much the only reason I watch the show in the first place. >.> In any case, I can't wait for this! :D

ShagsterP · Anthros

Heh, thanks for the words, everybody aww

Admittedly, the story will contain some emo-ness, seeing as Tech is irate and troubled for a portion of it. I guess that's just unavoidable, though hmm

ShagsterP · Anthros

Argh, I'm still mulling over a title, though. The best I've come up with thus far is "A Technical Reverie". Get it? Tech and Rev? Hur hur hur... I'm such a friggin' genius.. >_>

It's the best idea I've had so far, though, and it's starting to stick.