"Duck, meanwhile, is a walking, talking Las Vegas."
Crossfire, you crack me up! XD
Ace could be considered one who suffers from the sin of sloth. Sloth doesn't simply mean laziness. It can also mean "failure to utilize one's talents and gifts" example: "a student who does not work beyond what is required (and thus fails to achieve his or her full potential)" (wikipedia). Remember how Ace couldn't be bothered to work through the paperwork that needed attention due to the numerous damage and witness claims? Couldn't that be considered slothful of him? And also, couldn't Tech fall into this category as well? It's been said a few times within the series that Tech doesn't get out of his lab much (although i don't know whether that can be considered completely 'slothful' seeing as he's still working -within- his lab).
And I'm not sure about Wrath for Slam. Wrath implies hatred and the want to inflict pain and/or death on another person. Slam's too much of a sweetie to want to intentionally hurt somebody (somebody who he wasn't ordered to attack anyway). I don't think any of the 'Tics are like that, actually. But if I had to put one of the gang in the catgeroy of Wrath, I'd personally think that that's more Duck's area (mostly because of the way he behaved to Weathervane after she bagged out {boo, hiss!} Misty Breeze).
I think Lexi falls into the category of Envy as well (her reaction to the guys' interest in Black Velvet is a bit of a give-away).
Sloth - Duck Greed - Duck Envy - Duck (although I`m sure everyone on the team is capable of envy, but Duck shows it the most), possibly Rev and/or Tech Gluttony - Slam Lust - Duck Wrath - erm...Slam? Pride - Duck, Tech, Lexi (not to the extent of Duck, though)
All the sudden I have the urge to play a nice game of Duck, Duck, Goose.
Poor Duck... Duck is the contrary that Ace... Mister imperfection and mister perfect...
Who knows... maybe Lexi won't be with one of the tics... but if she does I prefer Duck...
For me:
Ace/Lexi: A perfect pairing??? not sure... is hard to be with misted perfect (I know, I had a mister perfect as boyfriend long time ago)... all that he does is correct, vereybody look at him and she dissapear behind him... she will became Ace's girlfriend (of wife) and no Lexi...
Lexi/Tech: Can be... The serious coyote and the bunny that act as teenager... she will be good for him, making him more social. I know Tech will give his love and protect her... but there's a little problem... he won't be loyal to her... yeap as you heard... machines and inventions will be always before her... can she compete with that??? she doesn't has the patiente (Tech need a more crazy woman... someone like... yeap... like Rev but in girl version)...
Rev/Lexi: Sorry... I can't stop laugh... that will be the most funny and crazy pairing ever... after Duck I see lexi with Rev... they will be like two little kids, playing video games and all that stuff.... the only problem... they will do that all the tics became crazy... I'm sure their relationship will be so crazy that will be really funny... but the problem is something bad happen... Rev is not strong in things that husrt him... and Lexi, she is strong, but not that strong... she needs someone stronger in character that her... and I think it won't work because: Rev's mother... and father...
Slam/Lexi: mmm... I don't know... She is sweet and cute... but I'm really not sure how this will end...
With Duck... well, they will have fights, avaryday will be something new... both are strong enough to mantain the relationship in bad times... and the best of all... they won't be perfect... they will laugh and cry... love each other and in same time hate each other... hugs and fights... they are so alike and in same time... so differents... that's why I think is the best pairing...
Maybe Lexi will have a boyfriend that is not a loonatic... who's know... in order to knoe is better to have another season...
Sloth - Duck Greed - Duck Envy - Duck (although I`m sure everyone on the team is capable of envy, but Duck shows it the most), possibly Rev and/or Tech Gluttony - Slam Lust - Duck Wrath - erm...Slam? Pride - Duck, Tech, Lexi (not to the extent of Duck, though)
All the sudden I have the urge to play a nice game of Duck, Duck, Goose.
"Duck, meanwhile, is a walking, talking Las Vegas."
Crossfire, you crack me up! XD
Ace could be considered one who suffers from the sin of sloth. Sloth doesn't simply mean laziness. It can also mean "failure to utilize one's talents and gifts" example: "a student who does not work beyond what is required (and thus fails to achieve his or her full potential)" (wikipedia). Remember how Ace couldn't be bothered to work through the paperwork that needed attention due to the numerous damage and witness claims? Couldn't that be considered slothful of him? And also, couldn't Tech fall into this category as well? It's been said a few times within the series that Tech doesn't get out of his lab much (although i don't know whether that can be considered completely 'slothful' seeing as he's still working -within- his lab).
And I'm not sure about Wrath for Slam. Wrath implies hatred and the want to inflict pain and/or death on another person. Slam's too much of a sweetie to want to intentionally hurt somebody (somebody who he wasn't ordered to attack anyway). I don't think any of the 'Tics are like that, actually. But if I had to put one of the gang in the catgeroy of Wrath, I'd personally think that that's more Duck's area (mostly because of the way he behaved to Weathervane after she bagged out {boo, hiss!} Misty Breeze).
I think Lexi falls into the category of Envy as well (her reaction to the guys' interest in Black Velvet is a bit of a give-away).
Buuuuuuuuuuuuuut... back on topic... *ahem* Wow, wouldn't Duxi be an interesting couple if the show did have romantic intentions? XD
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Well, there`s no solid, single representation for each, but...
Sloth - Duck Greed - Duck Envy - Duck (although I`m sure everyone on the team is capable of envy, but Duck shows it the most), possibly Rev and/or Tech Gluttony - Slam Lust - Duck Wrath - erm...Slam? Pride - Duck, Tech, Lexi (not to the extent of Duck, though)
...Okay, I`m sure someone can do better than that. But it does prove the point that Ace doesn`t appear to have any major flaws except the lack of a flaw itself. Duck, meanwhile, is a walking, talking Las Vegas.
Darn you, biased WB writers. Why couldn`t you just choose two vices to go with each `Tic? Although it seems that Duck`s character demanded more than just two.
Crossfire wrote: (Sloth, Greed, Gluttony, Envy, Lust, Wrath, and Pride)
Who represents lust? Just wondering.
And I pretty much agree with every assertion that Ace and Lexi being together would just be a little too "perfect". Duck and Lexi being together seems a lot more appealing to me. But as Xtreme has said I don't really see any canon romances happening between anyone anytime soon.
I like and agree with what you're saying Tyranee. I do believe that Ace and Lexi aren't as suited for one another as Duck and Lexi are. I'm just saying that there's nothing in the series to imply any sort of pairing between any of the characters, other than Lexi's little moments with Ace.
I really, really wish Ace's flaws could be develloped further; he has so much potential to be a great character without his perfect personality. *sigh*
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I must say, I see where you`re coming from, Xtream. (sorry Duxis, but I needed to respond to this message) Even I have a tough time thinking up good plots that involve Acexi (and yes, I`m still working on those fan eps, it`s jsut taking me a longer time than I`d have liked).
I personally blame the writers; if only they`d hadn`t made Ace so darn perfect and given him more personality flaws. But maybe with some creativity we fans can rectify that situation, although what traits ccould we give Ace that wouldn`t be already present in another `Tic?
Tech`s the socially awkward nerd (at least according to Duck), Rev`s the peppy comic relief, Slam`s the blissfully simple-hearted giant with a bottomless pit for a stomache, Duck`s the ever-so-unfortunate comic relief, Lexi`s the at-time superficial yet compassionate token female (mucgh as I hate using that term), so what`s that leave Ace?
Six `Tics with seven deadly sins between them (Sloth, Greed, Gluttony, Envy, Lust, Wrath, and Pride), and hardly any of them belong to Ace. Gosh darn it. Nevertheless, I have more than one reason for not shipping Duxi. *winks, then shields self from Xtream`s frenzied blows*
Ace is Bugs great-great-great-great-great-great-great-greatson... he MUST be perfect... and that's why I don't like Ace very much with Lexy... they will be the perfect couple... and they will end in a rutine...
Telling the true, after Duck, the two males characters that I'm in love is Tech and Ace... I'm sure Ace will be a perfect father and husband... but that's a little boring... with Duck everything is surprise...
I think Lexi character and Duck character go good together (and they are a good team)... if Ace has a girlfriend, is better another type of woman...
It will be a good idea to do Ace more "human" and less perfect... and looking how is Lexy, she will be bored to be with the perfect man, and she will feel a little in the shadow... is like he do all correct and she not... and she is competitive...
Ace need a girl type... miss accident and bad luck... something like that... a girl that is not perfect... not at all... a shy sweet girl...
Lexi need someone that she can fight sometimes, win sometimes... something less perfect... someone like Duck... for that I'm a Duxi...
Hey, no worries Crossfire. I ain'ts gunna maul joo.
I never said I was a Duxi. Well, I may have been at some point, but after seeing both seasons in a short period of time, i haffta say that there is nothing really to prove the Duxi relationship. I just think that if the writers did go in the direction of Duxi, it would be more interesting than Acexi, IMHO.
Now, I hope nobody minds me doing this, but I'm going to use some of the instances that were mentioned on here and give my opinion about them. This is after all a thread questioning the Duxi pairing and I as a neutural pairing fan am surely entitled to my opinion, no?
Now, 'It Came From Outer Space' (a.k.a: the episode through which Duck was so clearly experiencing PMS) has come up a few times. So, knowing how the character of Duck is usually self-centred and he can at times be somewhat (and let's face it Duckies) nasty to others (although he was more so than usual in this eppie, as we all know), let's just for a moment presume that it was himself he was caring for throughout the entire episode (which isn't really out of the ordinary).
The scene in which he was giving Lexi a "sincere" chat was most likely him trying to get some guilt off of his chest by pllacing it on Lexi. He was the one who gave Melvin the idea to turn the planet pint-sized, and more likely than not he knew that. So, when he attempted to console Lexi, perhaps he was just trying to console himself, whilst also taking the opporunity to make a small dig at her contribution to the dilema ("Or in this case, just one."). Maybe even the consolation he offered wasn't meant to come off so sincere? Maybe he was just mocking sincerity to make Lexi feel even worse, once again, to make himself feel better about the situation.
The scene where Lexi thanks Duck for his "advice" and Duck begins to sweat, when observed from the point of veiw that Duck is ego driven, just shows that Duck was worrying about the fact that the other 'Tics would scorn him for "convincing" her to leave. (*thinking* "Oh crap, this doesn't make me look good. Now the guys are gonna blame me for her leaving.")
And the notion that Duck was the first to meet Lexi because he cares (in my opinion) isn't quite correct. Ace teamed himself up with Duck before Ordering Slam to cover them and Rev to start the upload. Duck didn't really have much of a say in it. And him trying to convince Lexi he was the one who came up with the mission was just him trying to redeem himself in Lexi's eyes because he hates to look bad.
So all these things can be explained if you look at it from an unbiased perspective. But I understand how you could want to see the two of them together. They do make an interesting couple, without a doubt (especially after reading the fanfic on fanfiction.net entitled "Wrong"). But there isn't much within the episodes to back up the pairing, just like there isn't much to back up the Acexi pairing. It's a pretty romance neutral series.
Oh! And Crossfire, I await your fanepisodes with baited breath. Seriously; the prospect truly exites me! *bounces on seat*
I've always thought that Ace's ability to see the 'good' in people as something which could be considered somewhat of a flaw (such in the case of Deuce). But there isn't many plots within relationship storylines that such a flaw could be used for. Perhaps his love for his occupation within the 'Tics could be a flaw; imagine trying to spend some quality time with someone whose head is always with his job?
Just my two cents worth. Please, no bricks. I really would like to see romance within the series. XD
That's a very interesting and latural way of thinking about the Duxi relationship XtreamC. Indeed that was a very good analysis of the particular episode.
And yes, Ace may have flaws. We've seen them. But I think the producers aren't exploring them deeply enough.
Hey, no worries Crossfire. I ain'ts gunna maul joo.
I never said I was a Duxi. Well, I may have been at some point, but after seeing both seasons in a short period of time, i haffta say that there is nothing really to prove the Duxi relationship. I just think that if the writers did go in the direction of Duxi, it would be more interesting than Acexi, IMHO.
Now, I hope nobody minds me doing this, but I'm going to use some of the instances that were mentioned on here and give my opinion about them. This is after all a thread questioning the Duxi pairing and I as a neutural pairing fan am surely entitled to my opinion, no?
Now, 'It Came From Outer Space' (a.k.a: the episode through which Duck was so clearly experiencing PMS) has come up a few times. So, knowing how the character of Duck is usually self-centred and he can at times be somewhat (and let's face it Duckies) nasty to others (although he was more so than usual in this eppie, as we all know), let's just for a moment presume that it was himself he was caring for throughout the entire episode (which isn't really out of the ordinary).
The scene in which he was giving Lexi a "sincere" chat was most likely him trying to get some guilt off of his chest by pllacing it on Lexi. He was the one who gave Melvin the idea to turn the planet pint-sized, and more likely than not he knew that. So, when he attempted to console Lexi, perhaps he was just trying to console himself, whilst also taking the opporunity to make a small dig at her contribution to the dilema ("Or in this case, just one."). Maybe even the consolation he offered wasn't meant to come off so sincere? Maybe he was just mocking sincerity to make Lexi feel even worse, once again, to make himself feel better about the situation.
The scene where Lexi thanks Duck for his "advice" and Duck begins to sweat, when observed from the point of veiw that Duck is ego driven, just shows that Duck was worrying about the fact that the other 'Tics would scorn him for "convincing" her to leave. (*thinking* "Oh crap, this doesn't make me look good. Now the guys are gonna blame me for her leaving.")
And the notion that Duck was the first to meet Lexi because he cares (in my opinion) isn't quite correct. Ace teamed himself up with Duck before Ordering Slam to cover them and Rev to start the upload. Duck didn't really have much of a say in it. And him trying to convince Lexi he was the one who came up with the mission was just him trying to redeem himself in Lexi's eyes because he hates to look bad.
So all these things can be explained if you look at it from an unbiased perspective. But I understand how you could want to see the two of them together. They do make an interesting couple, without a doubt (especially after reading the fanfic on fanfiction.net entitled "Wrong"). But there isn't much within the episodes to back up the pairing, just like there isn't much to back up the Acexi pairing. It's a pretty romance neutral series.
Oh! And Crossfire, I await your fanepisodes with baited breath. Seriously; the prospect truly exites me! *bounces on seat*
I've always thought that Ace's ability to see the 'good' in people as something which could be considered somewhat of a flaw (such in the case of Deuce). But there isn't many plots within relationship storylines that such a flaw could be used for. Perhaps his love for his occupation within the 'Tics could be a flaw; imagine trying to spend some quality time with someone whose head is always with his job?
Just my two cents worth. Please, no bricks. I really would like to see romance within the series. XD
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I must say, I see where you`re coming from, Xtream. (sorry Duxis, but I needed to respond to this message) Even I have a tough time thinking up good plots that involve Acexi (and yes, I`m still working on those fan eps, it`s jsut taking me a longer time than I`d have liked).
I personally blame the writers; if only they`d hadn`t made Ace so darn perfect and given him more personality flaws. But maybe with some creativity we fans can rectify that situation, although what traits ccould we give Ace that wouldn`t be already present in another `Tic?
Tech`s the socially awkward nerd (at least according to Duck), Rev`s the peppy comic relief, Slam`s the blissfully simple-hearted giant with a bottomless pit for a stomache, Duck`s the ever-so-unfortunate comic relief, Lexi`s the at-time superficial yet compassionate token female (mucgh as I hate using that term), so what`s that leave Ace?
Six `Tics with seven deadly sins between them (Sloth, Greed, Gluttony, Envy, Lust, Wrath, and Pride), and hardly any of them belong to Ace. Gosh darn it. Nevertheless, I have more than one reason for not shipping Duxi. *winks, then shields self from Xtream`s frenzied blows*
Well, after seeing the entire two series over the last couple of days, I have arrived at a sound conclusion; aside for Lexi's few moments with Ace (which aren't really returned), there is no romance within this show.
I'd like for there to be more romantic implications within the third season (if we GET a third season), but personally I'd prefer all the characters to stay single. It gives more freedom for fanwriters and such to play with different possibilities without having to work around canon pairings.
Also, to stay on topic, I don't completely abhor the idea of Duxi - I actually think they would make a much more interesting couple than Acexi. I'm more for passonate and dramatic relationships rather than sweet, sappy, cutesie relationships (and forgive me for saying so, but that's how I feel Acexi's relationship would end up. Ace is so noble and Lexi is so devoted, I can see their relationship being so... wonderful... that it would be... unnatural... The writers might get some good flaws out of Ace by way of working with the fact that he's so devoted to the Law enforcement business, thus Lexi recieving a lack of attention, but that's it. Any plot involving another woman and jelousy is overdone. They used it in the new series of Biker Mice from Mars and I was mentally slapping myself because of it. And even if they DO use a plotline like that (or any other plotline which involves conflict between the two for that matter) Ace and Lexi would work through it, learn from it (like the respectible and intelligent characters they are) and the trouble wouldn't re-occur. And eventually... They'd become perfect.). Dramatic relationships, if handled properly, can come across as more realistic. I like realistic relationships as opposed to perfect dream-like relationships. Simpley because perfect relationships would be so darn BORING. *faint*
(on a sidenote... wow. that is a freakin' long paragraph. XD )
BUT, if they ever actually got together in the series (or if Duck EVER got paired with ANYONE) I would be infuriated. Why, you ask? Because HE'S MAH DUCKEH!!! MAHN!!!
*cough*
Like I said, the less canon pairings there are, the more freedom the fans have with plot ideas for fanfictions and stuff.
I shall now shut up and go and re-watch the episodes mentioned here to have Duxi moments to see if I follow your beliefs of their being hints within the series. *nod*
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Well Hisham Iagree that they have a brother/sister bond. But I don't see it totaly impossible that they can have a lovers relationship. (I'v seen wirder couples) After all some times the people you lest expect become involved with one anoder.
I agree... nobody know what will happen...
And Lexi is with Duck or with someone else that is not a loonatic... I don't see her with Ace... Rev is like marry your little brother... Tech maybe... but I don't think it works... Slam... never...
Well Hisham Iagree that they have a brother/sister bond. But I don't see it totaly impossible that they can have a lovers relationship. (I'v seen wirder couples) After all some times the people you lest expect become involved with one anoder.
I agree with Siamese on this one
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Well Hisham Iagree that they have a brother/sister bond. But I don't see it totaly impossible that they can have a lovers relationship. (I'v seen wirder couples) After all some times the people you lest expect become involved with one anoder.
Once again i agree that duckxlexi is impossible but not completely improbable. imagine if it was LolaXDaffy. Quickly take the thought out of my mind. if you ask me i would say duckxlexi in brother sister relationship but i would hate duck as a brother what do you think?
Lumosnight, you brought up some good points about playpus's pregnancy. I just had this odd notion of Lexi ending up laying eggs and having to sit on them while wondering how she got herself into such a situation. I figure the legend of the Easter Bunny had to come from somewhere. Anyways ... I could imagine that she would make Duck do his part and take turns sitting on the eggs.
Personally, if Duck and Lexi mated, I would believe that Lexi would carry their children "normal" ... whatever "normal" is for her species anyways . But, for me, it would be funny if Lexi did have concerns about laying eggs.
Tyranee wrote But is true... why she is angry when Duck receive something from another girl or talk about another girl...
I do wonder about that. I can only speculate that Lexi has feelings for Duck. If she merely wanted to be friends with him, it really wouldn't be her business.
Anyhow ... time for something fun....
Fowl Balls
On the Planet Blanc—Lexi, Danger and Tweetums decide to have a play day on the royal grounds. Lexi: I just need to use the little bunny's room. I'll be back in a minute. Lexi hightails to the restroom facilities. Tweetums: Oh, goodie. We're going to have so much fun, Sir Duck. Tweetums wildly swings his royal scepter around. Danger: Look, tendercrisp. Stop swinging that around. I know you want to play baseball but that thing isn't a bat. Besides, shouldn't you put that thing someplace safe? Tweetums still wildly swings the scepter around as he says: You're so wight, Sir Duck. I should put it somepwace pwecious. Danger: Gimme that! Annoyed, Danger attempts to grab the royal scepter from Tweetums. Tweetums accidentally strikes the scepter into the center of Danger's universe. Danger doubles over in agony. Lexi reenters the royal grounds and sees Danger, on the ground, curled up into a fetal position. Lexi runs over to Danger, kneels down over him and says: My goodness! What happened?! Tweetums: Sir Duck here has got himsewf a boo-boo. Lexi to Tweetums: Is that right? Tweetums: Yep. Lexi to Danger: You got a boo-boo? Danger whimpers affirmatively. Lexi: You poor baby. Do you want me to kiss it and make it better? Danger: Oh, yes! But—later—in private. Lexi: Oookay.
Ok ... silly question but I gotta ask: If Lexi became pregnant by Duck, would she go the Easter Bunny route and lay eggs?
I was wondering about a scene in Cape Duck. When Duck mentions the flowers possibly coming from a secret admirer, Lexi turns to the camera looking angered. I wonder if Lexi didn't like the idea of Duck having a secret admirer. The only reason why I wonder if that scene could be considered in that light is that Lexi seemed angered by Duck gushing over Misty Breeze in Weathering Heights. Lexi also made a disparaging joke about Duck's supposed choice of girlfriend(s) in Going Underground. Nonetheless, Duck has never had any real serious competition for his affections in the series, so it's hard to gauge if it's a matter of Lexi not wanting to deal with competition for Duck's affections* or her not liking the idea of Duck hooking up with someone** or baseless feminine rivalry***.
*Apparently, Tweetums doesn't count and I think it's because Tweetums is a kid and even if Tweetums was legal, which I don't believe to be the case but for argument sake, Duck's not interested. Therefore, [IMHO] Lexi wouldn't deem Tweetums a threat.
**Some friends like to monopolize their friends' time. Perhaps, Lexi is one of those people. Maybe, she doesn't like the idea of somebody, especially a girlfriend, who would take time away from her quality time with Duck. For example, Duck might be the only guy on the team willing to do the things that Lexi's likes. If Duck is busy with a girlfriend, who's Lexi going to hangout with? The other Loonatics might be too busy or not interested. Lexi might not have the free time from crime fighting to get out enough to bond with non-superheroes. It could be the fear of losing a companion.
Even when the Loonatics move to Blanc, and Tweetums could possibly try to muscle in on Duck's free time, Lexi can still tag along with them. Now, no self-respecting girlfriend of Duck would allow Lexi to do that. Besides, I can envision Lexi probably having a chat with Tweetums about the importance of not monopolizing Duck's time, so that she would still be able to have Duck to herself when need be. I guess in an odd way, the possibility of the camaraderie of Duck, Lexi and Tweetums could constitute a pseudo-family but I'm going off track....
***Lexi could suffer from a vain need to be considered the fairest one of all. She may not like the idea of any guy not considering her to be God's gift to mankind. Therefore, she would show jealousy anytime any guy thought of some other woman better than her. While some women are like this, IMHO, I don't see Lexi like this. However, since Duck does have some "bad" traits, who's to say TPTB didn't have in mind this type of behavior for Lexi.
-- Edited by Super Freak at 21:23, 2007-05-12
WOW!!!! good point!!!
If Duck show that he is a good dad when he is with the prince, I'm sure he will have a lot of girls behind him. There Lexi will no be happy...
But is true... why she is angry when Duck receive something from another girl or talk about another girl...
Ok ... silly question but I gotta ask: If Lexi became pregnant by Duck, would she go the Easter Bunny route and lay eggs?
Good quetion... maybe she'll be like a platypus: 1. Be pregranant for a certain amount of time 2. Lay eggs 3. Eggs hatch and then the babies suckle on their mother's milk
Platypuses are wierd.
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Ok ... silly question but I gotta ask: If Lexi became pregnant by Duck, would she go the Easter Bunny route and lay eggs?
I was wondering about a scene in Cape Duck. When Duck mentions the flowers possibly coming from a secret admirer, Lexi turns to the camera looking angered. I wonder if Lexi didn't like the idea of Duck having a secret admirer. The only reason why I wonder if that scene could be considered in that light is that Lexi seemed angered by Duck gushing over Misty Breeze in Weathering Heights. Lexi also made a disparaging joke about Duck's supposed choice of girlfriend(s) in Going Underground. Nonetheless, Duck has never had any real serious competition for his affections in the series, so it's hard to gauge if it's a matter of Lexi not wanting to deal with competition for Duck's affections* or her not liking the idea of Duck hooking up with someone** or baseless feminine rivalry***.
*Apparently, Tweetums doesn't count and I think it's because Tweetums is a kid and even if Tweetums was legal, which I don't believe to be the case but for argument sake, Duck's not interested. Therefore, [IMHO] Lexi wouldn't deem Tweetums a threat.
**Some friends like to monopolize their friends' time. Perhaps, Lexi is one of those people. Maybe, she doesn't like the idea of somebody, especially a girlfriend, who would take time away from her quality time with Duck. For example, Duck might be the only guy on the team willing to do the things that Lexi's likes. If Duck is busy with a girlfriend, who's Lexi going to hangout with? The other Loonatics might be too busy or not interested. Lexi might not have the free time from crime fighting to get out enough to bond with non-superheroes. It could be the fear of losing a companion.
Even when the Loonatics move to Blanc, and Tweetums could possibly try to muscle in on Duck's free time, Lexi can still tag along with them. Now, no self-respecting girlfriend of Duck would allow Lexi to do that. Besides, I can envision Lexi probably having a chat with Tweetums about the importance of not monopolizing Duck's time, so that she would still be able to have Duck to herself when need be. I guess in an odd way, the possibility of the camaraderie of Duck, Lexi and Tweetums could constitute a pseudo-family but I'm going off track....
***Lexi could suffer from a vain need to be considered the fairest one of all. She may not like the idea of any guy not considering her to be God's gift to mankind. Therefore, she would show jealousy anytime any guy thought of some other woman better than her. While some women are like this, IMHO, I don't see Lexi like this. However, since Duck does have some "bad" traits, who's to say TPTB didn't have in mind this type of behavior for Lexi.
Lumosnight wrote:I didn't want to say this before Crossfire, but you do tend to ship Ace and Lexi together..... sometimes to the point of annoyance to us Duxi shippers.
But hey, I bet I annoy many by keeping my Duxi signature at the bottom of every post.
Well, I find that couple a good source of jokes, but true, I do spout support for that pairing quite a bit. Well, you certainly don`t annoy me much. I can respect others` opinions so long as they respect mine (which is why I don`t respect the opinions of very many Sonic fans, what with their fanatic bias on many views; reasonable fans like G30FF are one of the few exceptions), which you do, even if they do get a little annoying.
Well, like my naysaying, I`ll try and curb the shipping a little, but if I think up a great Ace/Lexi joke, then you know I`ll just have to write it.
Gee, now I feel guilty. After reading what you said, Super Freak, I realize I do need to watch where I step a little more. Here I am spouting Ace/Lexi jokes wherever I deem them opportune, yet I have to try and disprove every hint (and they are hints, from the hinters` POV) that dedicated Duxi shippers who actually spend their time and effort with an image scanner that they own to capture those moments.
I feel a little ashamed of myself now. Everyone has the right to enjoy their favored pairing, and so far few here (in terms of non-shippers, anyway) have had a problem with me shipping Ace/Lexi like crazy, with only the occasional naysayer bothering to try and balance the "evidence" I present with mere references to remind me that, in the end, there`s virtually zero evidence of any pairing of any kind.
Well, I`d like to say I`m sorry to all those who I`ve secretly frustrated with my seemingly at-every-turn disproval attempts. You guys (and gals) do deserve a chance to enjoy your pairings like I do mine, so...I`ll back off from now on. Unless it`s obvious that the shipper in question is just being obnoxiously desperate, I won`t say anything.
I didn't want to say this before Crossfire, but you do tend to ship Ace and Lexi together..... sometimes to the point of annoyance to us Duxi shippers.
But hey, I bet I annoy many by keeping my Duxi signature at the bottom of every post.
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Gee, now I feel guilty. After reading what you said, Super Freak, I realize I do need to watch where I step a little more. Here I am spouting Ace/Lexi jokes wherever I deem them opportune, yet I have to try and disprove every hint (and they are hints, from the hinters` POV) that dedicated Duxi shippers who actually spend their time and effort with an image scanner that they own to capture those moments.
I feel a little ashamed of myself now. Everyone has the right to enjoy their favored pairing, and so far few here (in terms of non-shippers, anyway) have had a problem with me shipping Ace/Lexi like crazy, with only the occasional naysayer bothering to try and balance the "evidence" I present with mere references to remind me that, in the end, there`s virtually zero evidence of any pairing of any kind.
Well, I`d like to say I`m sorry to all those who I`ve secretly frustrated with my seemingly at-every-turn disproval attempts. You guys (and gals) do deserve a chance to enjoy your pairings like I do mine, so...I`ll back off from now on. Unless it`s obvious that the shipper in question is just being obnoxiously desperate, I won`t say anything.
I can understand. After watching the finale, I felt a sense of burnout. I also feel that the writers wouldn't fully utilize the potential of the characters, even if there's a third season. Something, about that finale is so depressing. It's like TPTB gave up and wanted to wrap up the series ASAP.
But I feel that the impression of romantic love between Kim and Ron is hindsight since TPTB of KP had made them an official couple. Before, So The Drama; the fanbase was in an uproar over Kim/Ron ... to the point where people had even went so far to threaten to kill each other over the difference of viewpoints. Even after they became official there were still fans that felt Kim/Ron shouldn't have happened because of their perceived sibling relationship.
And from my personal experience, people utilize the 'sibling relationship' statement to claim that the relationship is devoid of any romantic feelings. Kim/Ron is a good animated fictional example that characters can be in a perceived sibling relationship and still have romantic feelings for each other. There are plenty of RL [real life] examples of persons in romantic 'sibling-like' relationships but it doesn't really hold much meaning when one is discussing fictional situations.
Anna wrote: And 'Duxi' really can't live up to that. Lexi doesn't reach her heart out to Duck even when she finds out his sad origins during In the Pinkster, Duck never looked that terribly heart-broken by the prospect of never seeing her again in It Came From Outer Space. If Duxi was what the writers had in mind, they would have used these opportunities. But they just didn't.
Duxi doesn't compare to Kim/Ron on that level simply because Duxi wasn't designed to be a [Disney] romance. If Duxi was meant to be a romance, TPTB would've actually gotten them into a romance before the series finale. Taking the show's canon at face value, Duck and Lexi are friends. Or super action hero buddies ... something like that.
In the Pinkster: Lexi is the one who makes the comment about how once again, the world of Duck makes sense. So, it's not like she had zero concern for Duck's plight. It Came From Outer Space: Duck did look horrified when Lexi said she left because of his advice. Also, Duck made darn sure he was the first person Lexi saw from the rescue team and he also claimed to be the one to lead the rescue effort. Therefore, Duck did exhibit some concern for Lexi.
Nonetheless, I've never claimed that Duck and Lexi are meant to be in a romance. The show's canon doesn't support it. But on that note, the show doesn't support any romance between any of the characters, period. However, it gets rather tiresome to have to retread over the same anti-Duck/Lexi arguments when all I want to do is share my joy over my favorite moments of Danger and Lexi. *sigh*
-- Edited by Super Freak at 21:44, 2007-05-07
Sorry 'bout that. People like me have strong opinions about the dumbest things, yanno. Flightier than feathers too. Maybe it's better I just stay away from pairing debates; it'll save everyone their brain cells.
I jrealized something while I was typing that post, by the way. I think I've pretty much lost interest in the show. I still care about the characters, but yet I've largely lost hope that the writers would ever utilize their potential in a satisfying way, provided there is a third season. And that's frustrating. I like these characters, and they just don't get their props from the creators. For example, it didn't really matter to me that much that I couldn't watch the season finale last Saturday, and juding from current responses to it, I'm not missing much. I might catch on dailymotion.com, but I'm not counting the minutes.
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But I feel that the impression of romantic love between Kim and Ron is hindsight since TPTB of KP had made them an official couple. Before, So The Drama; the fanbase was in an uproar over Kim/Ron ... to the point where people had even went so far to threaten to kill each other over the difference of viewpoints. Even after they became official there were still fans that felt Kim/Ron shouldn't have happened because of their perceived sibling relationship.
And from my personal experience, people utilize the 'sibling relationship' statement to claim that the relationship is devoid of any romantic feelings. Kim/Ron is a good animated fictional example that characters can be in a perceived sibling relationship and still have romantic feelings for each other. There are plenty of RL [real life] examples of persons in romantic 'sibling-like' relationships but it doesn't really hold much meaning when one is discussing fictional situations.
Anna wrote: And 'Duxi' really can't live up to that. Lexi doesn't reach her heart out to Duck even when she finds out his sad origins during In the Pinkster, Duck never looked that terribly heart-broken by the prospect of never seeing her again in It Came From Outer Space. If Duxi was what the writers had in mind, they would have used these opportunities. But they just didn't.
Duxi doesn't compare to Kim/Ron on that level simply because Duxi wasn't designed to be a [Disney] romance. If Duxi was meant to be a romance, TPTB would've actually gotten them into a romance before the series finale. Taking the show's canon at face value, Duck and Lexi are friends. Or super action hero buddies ... something like that.
In the Pinkster: Lexi is the one who makes the comment about how once again, the world of Duck makes sense. So, it's not like she had zero concern for Duck's plight. It Came From Outer Space: Duck did look horrified when Lexi said she left because of his advice. Also, Duck made darn sure he was the first person Lexi saw from the rescue team and he also claimed to be the one to lead the rescue effort. Therefore, Duck did exhibit some concern for Lexi.
Nonetheless, I've never claimed that Duck and Lexi are meant to be in a [canonical] romance. The series doesn't support that notion. But on that note, the series doesn't support any romance between any of the characters, period. However, it gets rather tiresome to have to retread over the same anti-Duck/Lexi arguments when all I want to do is share my joy over my favorite moments of Danger and Lexi. *sigh*
Kim and Ron of Kim Possible had a 'sibling relationship' and they actually became an official romantic couple. Besides, married couples squabble too.
-- Edited by Super Freak at 19:22, 2007-05-07
Kim Possible also has consistantly funny, sharp, and original writing, smooth animation, and you can count on it having a great deal of warmth and emotion when the situation calls for it. In other words, it's an extremely different from Loonatics. Loonatics isn't so reliable in terms of sheer quality. (Let's be honest.)
Besides, the people writing Kim Possible seem to have entirely different sensibilities than the ones writing for Loonatics. In Kim Possible, the relationships of the characters take the front seat of each story, while in Loonatics it's mostly "action n' more action". (more honesty here.)
Also Duck and Ron are not the same people. It's an established fact Ron deeply cares for Kim. And I don't mean "dozens of fans have speculated so on message boards based on vague clues"; the writers make it a vital aspect of his character that drives the story. What it comes down to is that Ron is very, very loyal to Kim. That fact he'll go anywhere or do anything to help Kim, in spite of great fear and danger, is the truest indicator of his love for her.
And 'Duxi' really can't live up to that. Lexi doesn't reach her heart out to Duck even when she finds out his sad origins during In the Pinkster, Duck never looked that terribly heart-broken by the prospect of never seeing her again in It Came From Outer Space. If Duxi was what the writers had in mind, they would have used these opportunities. But they just didn't. If they have a sibling relationsip, it's a rather emotinally sterile one.
Plenty of brothers and sisters tease one another all the time, and truely do get on one another's nerves: that's a fact of life. But it's also a fact of life that good brothers and sisters are always there for one another. In the end, that's what love and family is all about. It's not the witty banter, the fights, or the friction between the members. It's about what the family is willing to do for one another.
Love is action.
One final note: Dear God, I think I'm actually a Kim Possible fan.
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Kim and Ron of Kim Possible had a 'sibling relationship' and they actually became an official romantic couple. Besides, married couples squabble too.
Personally, I see Duck and Lexi's banter as fireworks. And, for me, I enjoy watching fireworks. (*sigh* I'm so going to miss that.)
I think for a triangle to work there has to be romantic feelings coming from both sides. Most likely, a triangle would entail Ace and Danger vying for Lexi's affections and Lexi's feelings would be torn between the two guys.
I`d consider it more of a friendship triangle, with Ace and Lexi having the romantic link and Duck having a friendship relation to them both. Like this:
No doubt they are the focal trio of the series, considering they have the three greatest amounts of screen time out of the team (in all fairness, I do believe Duck gets the most out of anyone).
Like the fat lady singing ... it was Lexi's annual 'OMG, they killed Ace' moment in the season finale.
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The moment wasn't handled romantically and there wasn't any kind of romantic follow-up in the following finale scene. The moment was similar to Duck's panic over Ace's well-being in In the Pinkster. When Lexi ran over to Ace, Duck and Tech followed her and they all had concern for Ace. It was a great Ace moment, though. Hmm, thinking about it, I guess it made sense that Lexi, Duck and Tech would check on Ace's status after the battle considering that (IMHO) they can be considered Ace's closest friends on the team.
As mentioned before, a love triangle of Ace/Lexi/Danger would be in keeping with the show's triangle motif.
In 'Apocalypso', Lexi faints and Duck catches her. In 'Search for Tweetums' Ace faints and Lexi helps him. OK, fair enough for both Duxi and Leace fans.
Are they planning to make a love triangle among the trio?
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