Let`s say two of the `Tics were turned into enemies, and had to fight possibly to the death. What would be the most tragic confrontation? I myself had a tough time choosing between Ace vs. Lexi and Loonatics vs. Zadavia, but in the end I chose the latter.
Rev vs. Tech was my first inclination, and Ace vs. Lexi was in the running, too, but ultimately I think Loonatics vs. Zadavia would be the most tragic. She did bring them together, after all.
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Zadavia vs. the Loonatics definately in my book. Each one of them cares for her to some extent, and it would hurt them terribly to have to fight her to the death. The battle still wouldn't feel won even if they defeated her, because they would also have to lose the person who brought them together.
The runner-ups are Ace and Lexi, Ace and Duck, and Tech and Rev.
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Yeah, those battles would be meaningful, you`d have best friends (in some cases, possibly more than friends) fighting each other, forced into becoming enemies...that`d be sad to see, including if it was Loonatics vs. Zadavia, since she did, as you guys mentioned, bring them together in the first place (of course, it could also mean they`d come full circle in some wierd way).
It would also be a little sad to see Duck become an enemy if you think about it, since as unpopular as he was (for a little while...), he`s undeniably one of the most comical characters on the show, and whenever a comical character has to go bad or otherwise fight the good guys, it`s just sad, like seeing your little brother grow up to become your worst enemy.
Crossfire wrote: Yeah, those battles would be meaningful, you`d have best friends (in some cases, possibly more than friends) fighting each other, forced into becoming enemies...that`d be sad to see, including if it was Loonatics vs. Zadavia, since she did, as you guys mentioned, bring them together in the first place (of course, it could also mean they`d come full circle in some wierd way).
It would also be a little sad to see Duck become an enemy if you think about it, since as unpopular as he was (for a little while...), he`s undeniably one of the most comical characters on the show, and whenever a comical character has to go bad or otherwise fight the good guys, it`s just sad, like seeing your little brother grow up to become your worst enemy.
-- Edited by Crossfire at 12:08, 2007-03-17
wasn't that kind of what Rip did in the Family Bussiness?
This is an interesting poll. I voted for Loonatics vs Zadavia eventually, though i think it'd be very tragic as well if Ace fought Lexi and Tech fought Rev or Ace as well! As you guys have already said, all the Loonatics care for Zadavia to some degree, so if they had to go up against their trusted co-ordinator, it would be devastating for the whole team! Would they even have the hearts to hit her?
Ace: Her actions ain`t her own anymore, team! Fer her sake, as well as Acmetropolis`s, and even the galaxy`s, we have to...we must stop her, no matter what it takes. She would have wanted that. Are you with me, Loonatics?
WAAAHHHH! It'd be so cruel to have to pit the Loonatics against Zadavia like that! And if they ended up defeating and putting Zadavia away, could they go on as superheroes without her support?
That would be a very significant battle. It would be so hard to hit the one person who saved their lives from a giant meteor and bring together the heroes we all love and cherish.
Ace: Her actions ain`t her own anymore, team! Fer her sake, as well as Acmetropolis`s, and even the galaxy`s, we have to...we must stop her, no matter what it takes. She would have wanted that. Are you with me, Loonatics?
Duck: Ah, alright, fine, I`m in. Besides, it`s about time I showed her just what I can do.
Ace: I`m shoi she`da been proud o` ya, Duck.
Duck: Yeah, yeah...
Ace: Alrighty Loonatics, time fer one last hurrah! Fer Zadavia! Fer Acmetropolis! Fer justice! Let`s jet!
-- Edited by Crossfire at 13:52, 2007-03-17 I had to think awhile before choosing cos all of them fighting each other would be bad. :(
In the end, I chose the Loonatics Vs Zadaiva, Because I would think it would break all of the Loonatics hearts to fight someone that they truely care about. I also think that no matter how well Duck will hide it, I think he would be most affected by it.
It would be a clever twist but I for one, hope it doesn't happen.
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And i actually wouldn't mind seeing the Loonatics have to confront Zadavia on the show, provided they could get her back somehow at the end, like if she was being mind controlled or something. Or if she was trapped inside a machine, being used to power it, and the Loonatics had to break her out of it or something.
I voted Tech/Rev probably because I just finised reading "The Evolution Process" by Ippiki Ookami for the umpteenth time. But I stil think those two facing off would one of those things that's SUPPOSED to happen, but you don't want it to happen, like death. If you decode all that by removing my emoness, it states that Tech and Rev facing off would be sadder than death 'cause one of them will have to die anyway in the fight.
zadavias_spirit wrote: I voted Tech/Rev probably because I just finised reading "The Evolution Process" by Ippiki Ookami for the umpteenth time. But I stil think those two facing off would one of those things that's SUPPOSED to happen, but you don't want it to happen, like death. If you decode all that by removing my emoness, it states that Tech and Rev facing off would be sadder than death 'cause one of them will have to die anyway in the fight.
You...actually have a point. Given their ancestry, Tech and Rev should be predator-prey rivals. They're supposed to be natural enemies! But they've so far defied their families' and society's expectations in cooperating together and being pals. If they finally duked it out with one another, they will finally have fallen prey to their own animal instincts perhaps.
Really, the Four Tragedies would each be heart-rending for their own reasons. Ace vs. Lexi would be sad simply because of the potential romance between them. It`s sad to see a good romance split by the lovers being enemies (especially if one of them dies or will die). Ace vs. Duck would be sad because, for one, Ace and Duck are more or less friends in the end. Also, while this would mostly just be a blow to the ego of Ace fans like me, there`s also the prospect of Ace actually losing to Duck, either because Duck`s the "evil" side and relies on trickery to win, or because he`s the "good" side and "steps up" to match Ace. While I would feel less bad if Ace lost to Duck while the duck was on the "evil" side, still, the idea of Duck actually defeating Ace is an idea that...just feels strange. But, if coyotes and road runners can be best friends, then I suppose it`s possible, however unlikely.
In his current state, i think the only sure way Duck could beat Ace in battle is if he somehow tricked him or distracted him and got in a cheap shot. With his sword, Ace is more powerful and better armed, but Duck's teleportation powers could keep him out of harm's way for a while. If Duck pretended to be in serious trouble, like he was hanging off a cliff, and called to Ace to help him, then Ace would probably falter and go to rescue his friend, but then that's when Duck could take advantage of him.
But as you say Crossfire, it would be kinda dissappointing to see Duck turn against his team, coz then he really would be a true jerk. Up until now, he's always just being a comical jerk, but if he fights his friends, he'll be an 'evil' jerk!
Ace vs Lexi: A lot of fans on and off the board are supporting the Ace/Lexi pairing and I think that there could be a possible relationship between the two. If they were ever in battle, it would not only be sad to all Ace/Lexi shippers; but also for the show.
Loonatics vs. Zadavia: Zadavia is their leader and it would be like commiting an offense, to try and kill their leader. Also, Zadavia is very caring and has a great personality and a good heart. If the Loonatics were in battle with her, there would be regrets going on in so many different ways. Also, it wouldn't look right in the show; by just simply looking at Zadavia and the Loonatics insulting eachother, is more than enough damage to their friendship.
Tech vs Rev: For sure, a tragic ending. They are the best of friends and believe me, when two best friends feud or fight, it gets ugly. It only gets worse in their attitude and their anger. But minding you, Tech and Rev are already arguing, so whoever already feels sad about seeing them argue, it would only be worse for them to physically fight each other.
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RevRunner wrote: Here's what I think... Tech vs Rev: For sure, a tragic ending. They are the best of friends and believe me, when two best friends feud or fight, it gets ugly. It only gets worse in their attitude and their anger. But minding you, Tech and Rev are already arguing, so whoever already feels sad about seeing them argue, it would only be worse for them to physically fight each other.
Well, they've already physically fought each other off screen in Apocalypso (hear the punches ), but I guess you mean like weapons, death, explosions kinda' thing. But usually, whatever happens to those two, they always do something cool together (i.e. Robo Amigo, stopping the Flying Saucer from crashing, sending out *boom* *boom* missles). That's why I think it would be sad if they did fight all out.
Hrm...well...I picked Other. When I read the title of this thread, instantly Teen Titans came to mind: when Terra comes back to the Titans, but was really with Slade all along. And when she fights the other Titans she knows how to defeat them because she knows their moves and secrets etc from being so close to them.
So, something along the lines of Ace vs. the rest of the team or maybe Lexi or Tech would make a good battle.
Animefangirl11 wrote: Hrm...well...I picked Other. When I read the title of this thread, instantly Teen Titans came to mind: when Terra comes back to the Titans, but was really with Slade all along. And when she fights the other Titans she knows how to defeat them because she knows their moves and secrets etc from being so close to them.
So, something along the lines of Ace vs. the rest of the team or maybe Lexi or Tech would make a good battle.
Yes, i think an Ace and Tech confrontation would be very interesting too! Though i'd want Tech to put up a decent fight and not lose so easily.
"Lose so easily"? Tech has Molecular Regeneration for pete`s sake! And he can bend metal! Ace is the one who`d be at disadvantage, unless their powers were both drained (temporarily)...then yeah, I`d say Tech would have to work to put up a good fight, considering he isn`t physical combat-oriented like Ace, Lexi, Slam and even Rev (when the road runner actually gets a chance to fight).
"Lose so easily"? Tech has Molecular Regeneration for pete`s sake! And he can bend metal! Ace is the one who`d be at disadvantage, unless their powers were both drained (temporarily)...then yeah, I`d say Tech would have to work to put up a good fight, considering he isn`t physical combat-oriented like Ace, Lexi, Slam and even Rev (when the road runner actually gets a chance to fight).
The latter of what you said is what i had in mind. Tech isn't as combat-trained as the other Loonatics. His strengths lie in intelligence, inventing and preparatory work. He's more a scientist than a fighter. I mean, have we actually ever seen Tech throw a punch or kick at anyone? The best i've ever seen him do on a physical comabt scale is a couple of flips and jumps, but apart from that, he mostly relies on using his handmade weapons and electromagnetic powers, which mind you, is normally more than sufficient to defeat the bad guys! But on martial arts, acrobatic and sword skills, of course Ace is more than the superior of Tech! If Tech wasn't prepared somehow, Ace would kick him into the next century. He may not be able to kill Tech due to his regenerative powers, but he could still give him a good butt-walloping!
LOL! Although, Razor is a pretty good kicker himself! I mean he and T-Bone get plenty of practice on the punchbag and chopping bricks and all...
Now if only Tech could study and practise some martial arts too, then he'd be even more perfect! I'd die if i ever saw Tech land a punch or a chop or a kick on an enemy one day... *Imagines...*
Tech: HI YAH! *Karate chops Rev from behind and Rev falls down unconscious.* Hey, it works!
Skifox wrote: DX Why did he have to chop poor Rev?! He should've snuck up on Slam. That would've been a real test of his coyote-fu.
I dunno, Rev was the first person that came to my mind! LOL! And c'mon, we all know how Tech gets annoyed with him alot, this'd be payback for all the times Rev tampered with his inventions. I think Tech would be more likely to test his 'coyote-Fu' on Rev first before Slam, if he fails to knock out Slam, Slam ain't at all gonna be amused...
The Loonatics vs. Zadavia would be devastating. Her brother Optimatus, General Deuce and Rupes Oberon have already turned on her. The Loonatics also turning on Zadavia would be far too tragic. She'll probably be sorry that she ever existed.
Yeah, I suppose Rev had something comin' to him, although he did get caged that one time... ;D Blame my Revvieness. I mean, wouldn't you be upset if one of the 'tics came up behind Tech and chopped him into unconsciousness? Maybe Duck would have been a better choice - small, non-threatening, more than deserving... *ducks under the Duckies' bricks* XP
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Super Freak wrote: The Loonatics vs. Zadavia would be devastating. Her brother Optimatus, General Deuce and Rupes Oberon have already turned on her. The Loonatics also turning on Zadavia would be far too tragic. She'll probably be sorry that she ever existed.
You're right. Zadavia has been let down by so many people from her own home world, i don't think she could handle betrayal from her own Loonatics as well.
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But for me, the most tragic would be Duck vs. Ace. Not because I'm biased and I wanna see Duck in the spotlight (as if he hasn't taken it enough already), but because of the general idea of those two fighting.
There's always been tension between the two, but I think that, deep down, they at least RESPECT each other in a way... I found that towards the end of the second season, Duck even appeared to stop trying to take Ace's position.
A battle between these two would bring a lot of things to the surface... Things they probably never told one another... Can you imagine the normal witty battle-banter turned into a serious confession of things they don't like about each other, or things they DID like about each other...
If Duck were on the baddies side, which would most likely be the case, he would be spitting out insults and admitting that he'd been jealous all this time, feeling underappreciated and neglected. This would make Ace feel guilty, no doubt.
On the other hand, if Ace were the evil one, he would point out numerous flaws in Duck's fighting/personality/general existence... And we ALL know how much that would hurt his ego... 'Specially coming from Ace who, although takes the mickey out of him from time to time, has never been TRULY nasty to ANYONE (except Deuce... but that was with good reason, as Deuce betrayed Ace's trust).
(I could write an example of such, but I can't be bothered...)
So, yeah. Duck Vs. Ace would be traumatic for me to watch. D:
Also, even though there is a rule against bringing up old threads, I do like this one. :3
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All of you are wrong the most heartbreaking battle would be between Mary Kate and Ashley Olsen because they are twins and famous and stuff and it'd be like "No they are fighting they are supposed to buy shoes and iron my shirts!"
Ashley would win because she could easily break Mary-Kate. O:
FU mary-kate is a beautiful beautiful woman she will NOT break easily NO NO NO she is stronger then youll EVER be and youre just JEALOUS of her so leave her alone!!!!
For me it would be more tragic if Rev and Tech got into a fight rather than Loonatics vs Zadavia. Fighting Zadavia would be tragic, since she was the one who assembled them and they became the Loonatics thanks to her. She was the boss they trusted in, put their lives on the line when it came to saving her. But then again, it is not uncommon for leaders to get carried away with their power,so the Loonatics will come to a painful realisation when that happens. Rev and Tech managed to defy their birthrights, that is to be natural enemies. They were friends through thick and thin, through their squabbles and loyalty to one another. You could see how good friends they are when Tech helped Rev in 'family Business' pretending to be a vegetarian coyote despite how Rev's parent's treated him. Their friendship is one of the best and unique things in these series where in the future the coyote and roadrunner are friends. If their friendship breaks up then they will just fall back into what is expected of them by society. So then there is no hope for change, for the species to ever be friends. And watching best friends turn into worst enemies (which happens) is a heartbreaking process to observe.
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Yeah, I see what you're saying. Personally, I think that ANY of the Loonatics turning against one another is tragic. They've always had each other's backs, and every day they pull together the guts to trust each other with their very lives, whilst knowing that they themselves are required to protects the others any way they can. The tremendous responsibility that they have, not only to protect the city, but to protect each other, is immense. Kinda like firefighters: if one goes in, they all go in. So for one of the members of the Loonatics - and it doesn't really matter which one - to be forced into a position where they have to battle their own team and vice versa... That is truly tragic in and of itself. ):
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Hmm, a battle between Ace and Lexi would just seem like a pathetic b****fight between a guy and girl. Duck versus anyone would be a dissapointment, but not a tragedy since he was always (ironically) a black sheep. Ace arguing with anyone would look confusing and surprising. Tech against anyone besides Rev would be uninteresting, the same with Rev. So yeah, either Loonatics vs Zadavia or Tech vs Rev.
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), but I guess you mean like weapons, death, explosions kinda' thing.
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