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Martiangirl wrote:

Some people can work better on a team than solo. Conversely, some people are more sucessful working as loners, but are not team players. One's ability does not necessarily mean equate one's success. Duck is pretty competant on the field, but he probably needs a team (or at least a sidekick) to watch his back.
A good example to look at is the scene in "The Cloak of  Black Velvet". When the Loonatics were taking out BV's missles, Duck was trying to disarm one by hand. Ace yanked him off and Duck was enranged at being interrupted until the thing blew up about 5 seconds later. Imagine how that scene would have played out if he was on his own.
The thing is, no matter what his ability, Duck is accident prone, and a solo career might have disasterous results for him. He might have some marginal success, but soon come to realize that his being on a team was better suited for him.


Well put Martiangirl. The "Cloak of Black Velvet" example of Duck's need for someone to watch his back is a good one. Duck would definitely wind up in serious trouble without someone else to help him out. In the Acmegeddon eps, Ace and the others also had to go rescue Duck when he landed himself right into Optimatus's hands! (Tho' he did manage to free himself from his prison cell.) And Ace sent Rev to accompany Duck when he wanted to go off and track down the escaped criminals on his own. (I'm wondering whether that decision on Ace's part was also for Duck's safety as well.)

Y'know, now i starting to wonder which of the Loonatics would work well solo or even better on their own?

Aside from Duck's need for assistance whenever he lands himself in a tight pickle, Slam i think also needs directive guidance from others more competent. He's all muscle and very little brains unfortunately.

Rev i think works best contributing his skills in addition to a team's, but if he ever had to perform a task on his own, he'd probably complete that efficiently as well. He's a team-player.

Lexi i think feels more comfortable working with someone like Ace, although if she was left alone to fend for herself against danger, she'd manage and take care of herself very well. But i think being in a team gives her more motivation and drive.

Ace, as leader of a team, should be skilled and competent enough to work on his own; he'd need to be before he could effectively lead others. But now that he is leading others, i'm sure he feels the obligation of responsibility to never abandon his team mates or let them down.

Tech, this might just be my fangirl's instinct talking, but i think he actually now would benefit more if he went solo from the team, though the team would suffer a serious loss without his technical skills. Initially, i think it was probably good for Tech to get out of his usual isolated study pattern and work with others more pro-actively out in the field, but now i think he's gained all the benefits and learned all the lessons that he can derive from working with others. It can be observed that his team mates often turn to him for help and his judgement of a situation, but how often do you see Tech turning to the others for help? Not often. He's self-sufficent, hence he'd probably have more to gain personally without others to look after and provide back-up for.

-- Edited by Black Oracle at 08:57, 2007-02-03

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Hail almighty Wise One!  I'm starting to annoy you aren't I?

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But, I'm just wondering why out of all the Loonatics, Ace had to send Rev and why Duck had to have someone with him. But, I still mainly wonder why Rev was chosen. I notice that he is always left in the background with Slam. I thought WB fixed this problem. When I saw The Hunter this morning, Rev was left back at HQ and only had 2 lines to say in the entire show. I'm just wondering, why are they doing this to Rev?

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RevRunner wrote:

But, I'm just wondering why out of all the Loonatics, Ace had to send Rev and why Duck had to have someone with him. But, I still mainly wonder why Rev was chosen. I notice that he is always left in the background with Slam. I thought WB fixed this problem. When I saw The Hunter this morning, Rev was left back at HQ and only had 2 lines to say in the entire show. I'm just wondering, why are they doing this to Rev?

*Hugs RevRunner.* Aww, it's okay Rev. I understand how frustrating it can be to be a fan of a character that doesn't get nearly enough screentime on a show. But what can you do? Just keep appreciating what you do get to see of Rev.

I think the main reason that Rev was sent with Duck in the "Acmegeddon-part 1" ep was just coz the writers wanted to put the two birds of the team together for a mission.



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Well, the good news is that I got a hug. The bad news is that I have a feeling that the writers are giving certain roles to the characters, because it used to be like that in Looney Tunes. But, I believe that it is quite silly to just make Loonatics that way. I mean, you like Tech, right? Well, Wile never succeeded in catching the Road Runner and always got defeated. But, things changed and Tech is now a successful inventor. Daffy was selfish and even though Duck is too, he is getting all the screentime. Lola was the most recent Looney Tune and Lexi got to kick butt in season 1, but still appears a lot in season 2. The Tasmanian Devil, I believe; had his following (I'm not sure, I may be wrong) but even though Slam has his occasional moments, he has more moments than Rev. But, things haven't changed in the road runner part; it seems that Rev is the type that gets chewed up and spit out and I just don't want to see that anymore. But, all I can hope is to see more of Rev and at least I know that you feel my pain on this and I really appreciate it.

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Hmm, i'm not sure whether Slam gets more moments than Rev generally, i tend to think they're equal in the amount of appearance time they both get. But i do agree with you that Duck is getting far too much screentime this season!



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Me: Duck! Let the rest have a go on the spotlight!

Duck: I'm funny! I always have a go on the spotlight!

Me: I'm sorry to do this Duck and Oddity.

Gets a giant hammer out and whacks him on the head and hides him in the cupboard and locks it.

Me: There. A job well done! Now to get the producers to shine the spotlight on some of the other loonatics. 



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Rest of audience: NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! Now we have no reason to watch this show!

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-is running around panickedly- SOMETHING HAPPENED AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS!

-meanwhile-

Duck: Someone let me out? Hellooooo? Akira? Jessica? Martiangirl? Anyone? I kinda need more air...

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the_oddity wrote:

-is running around panickedly- SOMETHING HAPPENED AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS!

-meanwhile-

Duck: Someone let me out? Hellooooo? Akira? Jessica? Martiangirl? Anyone? I kinda need more air...


*Is walking by the cupboard when i hear strange noises coming from it.*

Me: Eeek! A haunted cupboard!

Duck (from inside cupboard): No it's me Duck! Lemme out!

Me (pressing ear onto cupboard): Duck? What are you doing in there?

Duck: Akira pulled a fast one on me and locked me in! Now open the doors!

Me: Why don't you just quack yourself out of there?

*Pause.* *Suddenly Duck appears outside of the cupboard next to me.*

Duck: I was gonna do that. Really.

Me: Uh huh. Sure you were.




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Black Oracle wrote:

the_oddity wrote:

-is running around panickedly- SOMETHING HAPPENED AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS!

-meanwhile-

Duck: Someone let me out? Hellooooo? Akira? Jessica? Martiangirl? Anyone? I kinda need more air...


*Is walking by the cupboard when i hear strange noises coming from it.*

Me: Eeek! A haunted cupboard!

Duck (from inside cupboard): No it's me Duck! Lemme out!

Me (pressing ear onto cupboard): Duck? What are you doing in there?

Duck: Akira pulled a fast one on me and locked me in! Now open the doors!

Me: Why don't you just quack yourself out of there?

*Pause.* *Suddenly Duck appears outside of the cupboard next to me.*

Duck: I was gonna do that. Really.

Me: Uh huh. Sure you were.




Me: You again!? How many times do I have to tell you!? Don't hog the spotlight!

Duck: You're only saying that cos you want Rev in the spotlight more.

Me: ... Don't push me Duck!



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-huggles Duck- Nuuuuuu, no touchy.

Duck: Er.



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hey the oddity can you please make a+ story were ace ya know betrays the team but not intntially please oh please oh please please please


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You're asking me? -faint-

Jacovie: She means yes!

Bugs Bunny doll: Oh, no, she doesn't!

Jacovie: Oh, yes she does!

Bugs Bunny doll: Not.

Jacovie: Does so!

Bugs Bunny doll: Does not.

Jacovie: Does so!

Bugs Bunny doll: Does not.

Jacovie: Does so!

Bugs Bunny doll: Does so.

Jacovie: Does- wait....not?

Bugs Bunny doll: Not.

Jacovie: Yeah! Wait, no!

((In short, yes, I will write a fanfic like that...I guess...if I can fit it into my schedule...))



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thank you thank you post it on fanfiction when your done


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I think or is Duck... or is Tech or is Lexi...

Why? because they have the personality for that...

Duck: He can quit the team and bacome a bad guy... but I'm sure it will be actuation, because he is the only one who really  want to be a hero... but he has all that he need to be a villain (and maybe he do a better job like a villain that a hero)

Lexi: is the only girl and her personality... is true she is loyal to Ace... but I think she is easly manipulate (look Duck, he manipulate her...). If she do that is thinking she is doing the right thing... she can do bad things... and maybe because she will look soooo cool like a villain...

Tech: he has a dark side... I'm sure... that make him so sexy... and intelligent... and maybe because one of his inventions... or for love... who knows...

Why the other no?

Ace: the perfect leader!!!! if he became bad is because someone hypnotize him... but I don't look him doing bad things... he's so boyscout to do that...

Slam: no... I don't look him like a villain (he's is not like Taz)

Rev: to kind and sweet to be a bad person...

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Alot of us in the past have thought that if any of the Loonatics were to betray the team, it would most likely either be Tech or Duck. I personally would find a Tech betrayal more fascinating tho'. If Duck were to go rogue, it'd be too predictable, coz we all know how competitive Duck is with Ace for leadership. But Tech has always seemed to go along with the team up until this point without any complaints, too smoothly if you ask me! If he were to go rogue, it's be more of a surprise. But there are things about Tech and his motivations that we still don't seem to know everything about. Of course, if the show ever did a Tech betrayal, i wouldn't want it to be a simple case of Tech just being bad all along (like Pinkster) or completely just hating his team mates for the sake of being evil, it'd have to be something more complicated, with Tech having genuine reasons for his treachery. And i wouldn't want him to permanently leave the show altogether afterward tho'! A story like that could have alot of memorable impact on the show.

-- Edited by Black Oracle at 15:29, 2007-03-03

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Tyranee wrote:
Lexi: is the only girl and her personality... is true she is loyal to Ace... but I think she is easly manipulate (look Duck, he manipulate her...). If she do that is thinking she is doing the right thing... she can do bad things... and maybe because she will look soooo cool like a villain...

H'm. I don't know, I can't really see Lexi betraying the team. She may be the only girl but then again, that depends how you think of it. Zadavia is a girl. She may not be directly a member of the Loonatics, but I think perhaps the fact that she's female is taken for granted. I mean, Lexi would be worse off if, say, Optimatus was good and Zadavia was bad. I think Zadavia can get just as annoyed with the boys as Lexi. Now, there's always the possibility that if Lexi really does have strong feelings for Ace, she might betray out of jealousy if some girl came along and caught Ace's eye... still though, her attitude seems like that of a typical teenage girl in the body of a rabbit. x3 Sure, she gets annoyed with the others but really, she's just one of the guys. I'm sure that deep down she doesn't mind that one bit... though who can say for sure? Quite difficult to get inside a cartoon character's mind. ;]



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