After watching the ep "I am Slamacus", where toward the end Pierre Le Pew had told the Loonatics only one of them could come out alive from the force-field he had trapped them in, telling them to fight one another, i started wondering: if the Loonatics 'had' fought one another to leave only one victor, what would have happened in their fight and who would have been the last one standing? What are your beliefs for how such a fight-off would have proceeded? And who out of the Loonatics do you each think would have been most likely to be the victor? I know the Loonatics would be reluctant to fight one another coz they're all friends, but let's just imagine for a moment if they had no choice but to fight each other.
Me, i think if the Loonatics had indeed fought each other on the show, the writers would have been most likely to make Ace the victor coz he's the leader and supposed to be the coolest and most formidable fighter. But if i had my way, i'd have made Tech the last one standing (can you blame me 4 being biased? I'm a Tech fan!). I think Tech would have figured out a way to somehow outsmart his team mates, exploit their weaknesses (he's bound to know some!), use some weapon or gadgets of his to knock 'em out, or just come up with a clever plan to take them down one by one.
I would envision the fight going something like this:
Slam and Rev would charge at one another at their top speeds and most likely Rev would be the one to fall from that collision, being the smaller and more fragile of the two. Then the temporarily combined powers of Ace and Lexi would be directed to knock out Slam in mid spin. Duck would take on Ace, but be defeated by him when Ace deflects a power egg of his back in his face (probably using his sword). Tech would create an electromagnetic shield to protect himself from Lexi's brain-blasts and then calculating the precise angle at which to fire an energy blast from some gun of his, he'd then fire at the estimated location on the forcefield so that the energy blast would bounce off and hit Lexi square on. With just Ace and Tech left standing now, things would get serious. Ace would fire his laser vision at Tech, and if he managed to burn him, Tech would just regenerate back again or his wounds would heal up. Tech would disarm Ace of his sword with his magnetic powers. Ace would then be forced to fight Tech at close quarters in hand-to-hand combat; he'd get in a few hits at Tech, but Tech would be able to block most of Ace's attacks with another electromagnetic shield. Tech would end the fight by levitating some metal object (a weapon of his or even Ace's own sword!) and using that to knock out Ace from behind. Tech thus would be the victor!
This isn't even a fair fight. Tech is practically immortal. No matter how many times he gets zapped, he'll just keep coming back. Tech wins by default because the rest of the Loonatics will kill each other off.
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My thoughts exactly. Of course, if it did happen, I would see Ace coming out the victor (but feeling really bad about it). Just because Tech is virtually immortal doesn`t mean he can`t be rendered unconscious.
I just assumed that since the title was called "fight to the finish" and that "I Am Slamacus" was brought up, it would be a similar deal: Last one alive.
So, it's just the last one standing? I'll have to think on that. . .
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Crossfire wrote: My thoughts exactly. Of course, if it did happen, I would see Ace coming out the victor (but feeling really bad about it). Just because Tech is virtually immortal doesn`t mean he can`t be rendered unconscious.
-- Edited by Crossfire at 11:26, 2006-10-19
Actually yeah, i can think of two potential ways to possibly kill Tech: Either giving him a fatal knock to the head or by chemical poisoning. Those might work. Please don't kill Tech now!
Crossfire wrote: My thoughts exactly. Of course, if it did happen, I would see Ace coming out the victor (but feeling really bad about it). Just because Tech is virtually immortal doesn`t mean he can`t be rendered unconscious.
-- Edited by Crossfire at 11:26, 2006-10-19
Actually yeah, i can think of two potential ways to possibly kill Tech: Either giving him a fatal knock to the head or by chemical poisoning. Those might work. Please don't kill Tech now!
I was thinking about this when I was planning on writing some various fanfiction (as of now, everything in the writing department of Lonely Light Brain Central has gone to complete halt), and the only thing I thought might possibly off him would be to obstruct his breathing, like drowning. :| ...Of course, I wasn't planning on killing him off, though..
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Black Oracle wrote: Oh yeah, that's probably a third technique that would kill Tech: constricted breathing by drowning, suffocation, hanging etc etc. Urgh! Nasty!
Actually, these methods are of no use. You die by those when ALL your brain cells die. His brain cells would just keep regenerating. You can't kill him with a blow to the head, the wound would only repair itself, and the lost blood cells would regenerate. Er, all the blood he lost would be back in his system.
The rules for Molecular Regeneration seem to be it can grow back, it can't be burned off, and I'm sure cutting him wouldn't work.
Seems to be the only ways to kill him would be to poison him or throw him in a pool of magma (hopefully the volcano hasn't erupted, or else you'll be dead too!) so there won't be any ashes capable of regenerating.
Hmmm... I wonder what would happen if he got incinerated and half his ashes scattered... mini Techs! But that's another topic.
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Interesting thought there domitupsyk about what would happen if Tech's ashes were scattered before regeneration took place. But Tech regenerates very quickly, so it certainly would be difficult to scatter his remains in the space of a few seconds before they start reassembling and reconstructing themselves!
And i agree that there are proabably only one or two 'physical' methods that could properly kill Tech: either completely incinerating every last scrap of his remains somehow (so that nothing remains), or restricting his breathing (i.e. suffocation). But when i said a fatal knock to the head, i didn't mean having Tech's skull cracked wide open, i meant a hit to his head that may severly damage his brain functioning somehow and that may cause his brain to swell from hard impact. It wouldn't be that his head suffered external damage, but just that he had suffered an aftershock to his head that otherwise is still intact. Tech will heal from any physical burning, cutting or any technique that can cause grievous wounding to the body, but 'molecular regeneration' theoretically doesn't 'correct' problems that don't involve destruction of the body somehow. So Tech could be guessed to be vulnerable still to poisoning or cutting off of breathing.
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. I see. Lobotomy. Or labotomy, however it's spelled.
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You know too much. Hmm... if there were no weapons allowed, I'd say Slam. He's easily kill the first four, and would give Tech that veggie-table-fying blow to the head.
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I`d beg to differ. This isn`t bias, but I think Ace would give Slam some good competition. Just because Slam`s the strongest doesn`t mean he`s the best fighter. Ace has the wit and the cunning to turn Slam`s abilities against him somehow, like maybe trip him up while he`s spinning. Plus, he has his Optic Lasers, which Slam can`t recover from (that`d be Tech who could regenerate).
I think, just for irony, theclosest fight would actually be between Ace and Duck. Duck would be difficult to hit, since he can warp, and possibly take Ace by surprise, but yet Ace has the skills to dodge/block the Aqua-Dense and Power Eggs, and Duck would be dead meat if he tried to take Ace head-on in melee combat. And this would be without the GSS.
Here's another question: what advantages or skills do each of the Loonatics have over each other?
Ace possesses the best martial arts and swordsmanship skills of the lot. Lexi is the most acrobatic. Duck is a hard target to hit and follow thanks to his 'quacking' powers and he is probably the best swimmer (he'd have an advantage underwater over his team mates). Slam is the strongest and has the most raw power. Rev too, like Duck, is even harder to target and hit with his speed and quick reflexes. And Tech is the smartest and most knowledgeable one, with an array of technology to support him.
I think you answered your own question... I can't think of anything else besides Tech's regeneration (but that's not fair, so it doesn't count). Dang, we're a morbid bunch. ^^; But I like morbid. Morbid is fun! ^_^ Dang, that reminds me I haven't worked on my challenge story since the day Jack challenged me. Oh, it's gonna be one SICK s.o.b.
But that's not the point. The point is... I can't think of anything else.
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Here's another question: what advantages or skills do each of the Loonatics have over each other?
Ace possesses the best martial arts and swordsmanship skills of the lot. Lexi is the most acrobatic. Duck is a hard target to hit and follow thanks to his 'quacking' powers and he is probably the best swimmer (he'd have an advantage underwater over his team mates). Slam is the strongest and has the most raw power. Rev too, like Duck, is even harder to target and hit with his speed and quick reflexes. And Tech is the smartest and most knowledgeable one, with an array of technology to support him.
Well, it depends on the location and conditions. Underwater, Duck would gain the upper hand due to his aquatic expertise and incredible control over water that the Aqua-Dense gives him. In an area with lots of high platforms and terraces, Lexi and Rev would do the best as their powers are suited for maneuvering in levelled areas. During a sandstorm, Ace`s optic enhancement would give him the best vision. In the air...Rev would have most everyone knocked to the ground. On flat, plain land, however, I`d have to say Ace and Slam would be the most dominate.
Pardon me for being slightly biased, but I think Ace is the most balanced member of the team, so he would last the longest in an area where someone else has the advantage, as he could adapt according to the situation (i.e., underwater, he`ll lure Duck into a closed-in space so as to reduce his maneuverability and lessen the area he can use the AD). However, it still really depends on the environment and the condition it`s in.
Sorry, but I don't really see them fighting to the death, unless mind control was involed or that they really,REALLY didn't have a choice. Though, if that ever happened, (I HOPE NOT!!!!!!!) I'd think Tech or Ace would be the last one standing. But I really can't see them doing it because they might figger someway to avoid that. I REALLY hope it never comes to that.
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Not to worry Twilightgirl. I don't think they'd ever really physically fight willingly in the show either. There'd have to be mind-control involved for that to happen (or betrayal from one of the team members, but that's unlikely).
And that's a good point about environmental terrain Crossfire. Each of the loonatics would probably perform better than the others under certain conditions. But i actually think Rev would be best sprinting on a flat, straight path, like a road, with few obstacles in his way. He'd probably be able to run fastest on an unblocked track. And Tech would be in his element in a room constructed and full of metals for him to tamper with.
Not to worry Twilightgirl. I don't think they'd ever really physically fight willingly in the show either. There'd have to be mind-control involved for that to happen (or betrayal from one of the team members, but that's unlikely).
And that's a good point about environmental terrain Crossfire. Each of the loonatics would probably perform better than the others under certain conditions. But i actually think Rev would be best sprinting on a flat, straight path, like a road, with few obstacles in his way. He'd probably be able to run fastest on an unblocked track. And Tech would be in his element in a room constructed and full of metals for him to tamper with.
`Cept Rev has shown the least amount of melee combat ability so far. Sure, he might be able to run circles around the other `Tics, but that`s almost always played a distraction role for the rest of the team, not as a direct combat ability. So, if he had to take Ace or Slam on face-to-beak, what could he do besides run around firing taunts at them?
If Slam pulled out one of those mighty tornadoes of his, little red road runner would be swept off the ground and thrown about like a piece of driftwood on the open sea during a hurricane/typhoon/cyclone. And Rev would have to be a complete bird-brain to try and take Ace on in head-to-head combat. Wait, Rev is a bird...
Anyways, now in mountainous terrain, the road runner might have a chance, as Slam`s tornadoes wouldn`t work very well in closed-on spaces, and Rev`s flight and speed means Duck`s just about the only one who could possibly gain some ground against him. And that would be provided Duck could predict where Rev was headed, something Tech would be much more likely to do.
You're probably right about Rev being the least able in physical hand-to-hand direct combat, but i wouldn't underestimate him. There's probably alot more stuff he could do with super speed than just run circles 'round enemies. And he's actually quite intelligent, tho' it comes across as scatter-brained alot of the time. Like you say, i wouldn't see Rev taking on the likes of Ace and Slam in head to head fights, he's physically smaller in stature and build to them and thus could be considered more weaker and fragile, but he'd try to look for a way to even up the odds, or try to take 'em out fast before they know what's hit them, or he'd attempt to trick them.
Very good point there! Ace is strongest physically but Tech is strong mentally. They all do have qualities that they can use to their advantage but can only be weakened if they let their guard down.
Exactly, I think Ace is overall the best physical fighter out of all the Looantics with his martial arts skills, whilst Tech's strength lies with his intellect. Slam is the strongest, Rev the fastest, Lexi the most acrobatic and Duck...well...he's...the most annoying! Is that a quality really?
It could be. If he's fighting Ace, he could annoy him to the point he tried to fry him, and then Duck could just step put of the way and Ace's laser vision would backfire and possibly kill him, or at least blind him. Same with Lexi, though hers would probably kill her (the only thing that saved her in A Creep From the Deep was her helmet. TG4those!).
Rev would chase after him, maybe trying to head butt him and wind up killing himself by running head-first into something not-so-soft and cracking his own skull open, same with Slam.
Tech... that's a hard one. Any injuries would immediately be repaired, so that wouldn't work, and Duck wouldn't stand a snowball's chance in hell up close, whether or not Tech had a weapon due to his MA. He'd simply magnetise something over to beat the s(bleep) out of Duck with. So basically, we wind back up at square one: What to do with Tech?
In order for there to even BE a fight, Tech would need to be taken down immdiately, and this is from a powers stand point.
It really depends on the type of battle: Powers, Weapons, Combat, or a mix of any or all of the three.
Powers: I think Tech or Duck has this one.
Weapons:Not to be unfair or biased, but referencing The Menace of Mastermind, Tech. Anything they can do, he can do bigger.
Combat: This is a major toss up between Ace and Slam. Slam is the strongest, but Ace is quicker than Slam. If thrown, Ace would remain standing. I originally thought Lexi, but I ruled that out when thinking about if he threw either of them.
Garr, evil Rick. He makes us think too hard. I'm going to type up a report like thing taking into account all abilities, battle types, and terrain types. I'll calculate the odds of each winning where, and get back to you. (I sound a lot like Tech...)
Edit: I failed to mention that of course, I'm going to copy and paste it up here, and the way I'll determine that is whoever has the biggest percentage out of 100%. Bah, you'll see when I'm done.
-- Edited by dOMITUPSYK at 11:29, 2006-10-28
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Uh hey Doma, on the weapons thing, you forgot to include that Ace has the GSS, and I highly doubt Tech would be able to imitate/combat something like that (he knows diddly about wormhole technology, for Chuck`s sake. And that appears to be one of Freling`s simpler technologies to me).
GSS included, Ace is the most powerful member of the `Tics (Tech and Duck would be helpless against a sword that can throw them!) and, if one were to constantly vaporize Tech (like the GSS could do, I`m sure) he`d be left in a perpetual state of regneration, thus effectively KO`ing him (not to mention you could stuff his ashes in a jar if you were quick enough). So, Tech might be virtually impossible to kill, but that doesn`t mean he can`t be captured.
And, like I said before, on any level of competition, it partially depends on the environment and it`s conditions. Sure, Duck could annoy Ace by warping, but if they were in a crowded cave, how much better could the duck do than the rabbit? I hate to be mean, but I doubt Duck is as accomplished a shot as Ace. And if Ace couldn`t hit Duck, just imagine Duck trying to nail Ace in a close-corner, obstructd cave like that.
Likewise, in the air, Rev would probably rule, as while Duck could just constantly telport, that might disorient him over time, plus Rev has the best mid-air capability. Heck, he might even be able to kick Ace`s butt in the air.
It's gonna take me weeks to do that report. I realize that now. I haven't even gotten to the calculations part, there's so much junk.
Hey Crossfire, that's when you do this:
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Herr A: We didn't put a Christmas tree up, nothin'. We went to the beach. It was wonderful. BUT... I got in water up to my... crotch area, and when that wave hit ALLLLLLLL my business went running towards my intestinal tract...
Likewise, in the air, Rev would probably rule, as while Duck could just constantly telport, that might disorient him over time, plus Rev has the best mid-air capability. Heck, he might even be able to kick Ace`s butt in the air.
Eh-heh...just my two cents, there
Yay! If it was my opinion, I think that Ace or Lexi would win the fight. Either because Ace is leader and gets a head start in everything before everyone else, or Lexi because she is portrayed indestructable almost all the time.
But, if it were up to me; I would make sure that Rev would win the fight and maybe you're right, he can fly, so he could outsmart Ace and Tech in that area. Superspeed to dodge Lexi's brainblast, or if she comes at him and if Duck quacks, Rev could fly if he's close to him. Slam might be huge, but not as quick as Rev. If he uses tornado blast, Rev could move out of the way and Slam wouldn't be able to see what is going on. If it were superstrength; that's a different story, but I'd still make sure that Rev would win.
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He! He! Wouldn't we all like our favourites to win a fight RevRunner?! I know i'd like Tech to come out on top! But of course, that's not how it'd work out on the show most likely.
if the battle was in complete darkness, or something really close to that, Rev would have an advantage because of his internal GPS (the cloak of black velvet)
I think from A creep in the deep, when Rev and Slam were trying to stop the whirlpool, we can figure out two things: 1. Rev and Slam can move at about the same speed...although Rev might've just not been using all of his speed... 2. Slam can see when he's in tornado mode. He can stick his head out the top of the tornado.
Duck's quacking may be helpful, but he could careless, and get hit, like what happened in both episodes with Sypher
Tech may be able to keep regenerating, but that doesn't mean he doesn't feel pain. zap him enough times, and he could be in too much pain to fight back.
Rev's kicks are pretty powerful as he can knock a missile off course (cloak of black velvet) and kick around someone as big as massive (stop the world I wanna get off)
anyone wonder what would happen if one of duck's tar eggs hit ace's eyes? besides blinding him, how would it affect his laser vision? would his laser vision blast through the tar?
I don't know how, but slam seems to able to withstand heat better than any of the others (weathering heights). maybe it has to do with his density or something...
a way to possibly kill tech: I don't know much about biology and cells, but how about literally freezing?
Lexi seems to able to use her brain blasts to turn things like balls into explosive bombs (stop the world I wanna get off).
Slam's spinning (and I'm guessing Rev's running too) seems to able to create enough friction to melt an iceberg that tech's retro-fire master blasters couldn't (loonatics on ice). how hot would that be?
But if it were between Ace and Bugs? Oh man. Ace would be out of commission in less than 5 seconds. Because this is fecking Bugs Bunny we're talking about here.
So, so far in this Topic we've had Slam (Not in order) Duck, Rev, Tech and Ace coming out on top, what about Lexi?
Are we just ruling her out coz we can't be bothered, Can't decide how she would win, or is it back down to good old fashioned Biology: Masculin and Feminin differences.
I mean yeah, physically the guys are probably all alot stronger than she is, but that doesn't mean she couldn't win out of endurance (Wait, that might be Rev?) Cunning (Tech?) Agility (Ace?) Trickery (Probably Duck) and strength, (I guess not.)
So how could she win? Or would she be able to?
Thses are the questions in life that haunt me!
Anyone got any ideas???
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um...her skill over the others is in agility, but, personally, I don't think it helps that much. Ace has almost as(if not just as) good an agility as lexi, and rev has fast reflexes. Her super-hearing would make it hard for anyone (excpet maybe rev and duck) from sneaking up on her, but that's only good in defence. So honestly, I can't figure out how she would win.
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Lexi by herself cannot win. Her almighty uterus would win her the battle. If she's built to survive childbirth, she could easily survive a fight to the death with five guys.
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Duck would win. Why? Because I say so, that's why.
Nah, in all honesty, I'd like Rev to win. It would give him a chance to stand out in the spotlight and PROVE something for once, instead of being shoved aside as he was in the series.
Who I THINK would win is Ace. Because that's just how predictable cartoons have typically programed our minds and conditioned us to believe the leader would always come out on top.
I do, however, think that it would be great if Duck won... Just as a twist to mess with ppl's minds. XD
Duck: *quacks away from the battle*
3 hrs later
Duck: *quacks back in, eating a banana* *looks around at everyone sprawled across the ground, beaten and defeated* I RULE, BABY!!! 8D
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) I'd think Tech or Ace would be the last one standing. But I really can't see them doing it because they might figger someway to avoid that. I REALLY hope it never comes to that.
